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Old 13-09-2009, 12:58   #1
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Fire Hose as Chafe Guard

I scored some 3 inch fire hose and the plan is to use it for chafe protection when spider webbed for a hurricane.

It has double wall fabric, the inner one having been bonded to the inner most rubber.

My understanding of storm rope failure is not so much that the rope actually rubs through but that it rubs, heats up and melts through.

The newer (and very expensive ) chafe guards are thin and single walled. This allows the water to penetrate and help keep the line cool if I understand correctly.

So my question;

Should I use the hose as is or should I pull out the inner portion and just use the outer portion as it will allow water to pass?
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I remove the inner section for the reason you cite. Wish I could find some more of the small (1.5") hose, I have lots of the bigger stuff, but it is hard to find the stuff that fits the lines better.
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You'll want to cut up the 3 inch after removing the inner core to make your own tubes to fit the rope. The outer core is pretty nasty stuff. Fireman don't want chaffed hoses.
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Old 13-09-2009, 14:09   #4
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You'll want to cut up the 3 inch after removing the inner core to make your own tubes to fit the rope. The outer core is pretty nasty stuff. Fireman don't want chaffed hoses.
It is not chafed much on the outside.
The rubber is bonded too well to the inner core to separate it out.
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I've always left the rubber inner core on mine, and never had a problem, even through a few hurricanes.
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No problem, until the rubber starts crumbling and you get this whole mess aboard.

Fur hurricanes, fine, you use anything. But for regular use we switched to those expensive ones from the catalogs made from webbing with velcro to open it en put over a line. They are very expensive, but also work extremely well and hold up to UV.

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I like the hose, but could never get the fine one - on my shore the dia is (?) - like 5 inches. Too big.

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Therapy,

The hose you are referring to is (not-surprisingly) named double-jacket. I am a retired fire Captain, handled miles of the stuff. The outer jacket is very robust and will last a long time when correctly secured to other lines. My Rhodes Reliant sit on a mooring in front of my house here in Bermuda, and whilst I have replaced the bridle, 1" 3-lay nylon, through age, I still have the same chafe protection that survived thru Fabian. 24hrs, 45- 177mph. To separate the 2 woven surfaces, pinch the hose between thumb and fore-finger. Get a broomstick between the woven surfaces and drive it through. It separates quite easily normally. Melt some holes about an inch back from your cuts and weave some 3/16 braided line through the holes and through the lay of your shore lines. Whip the ends tight around the shore lines. It has worked for me for many years.
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I scored some 3 inch fire hose
EDIT:

Dang.
I just measured the ID.
It is 1.5 inches.


Blue Stocking,
I have some separated already. I am thinking of using just the outer jacket.
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Nylon Sleeve Chafe Protector

The company I work for sells a product i think save some labor from trying to peel the inner tube from fire hose btw we sell fire hose also. there are 2 varities avaiable one is a nylon sock avaiable from a .67" id to 6" id the sleeve comes up to 300ft in length.
there is even a version that has a velcro Clousure (industrial Velcro) so you can wrap around and zip closed really ideal for long lenght applications. you can contact me or most hydraulic hose shops would have it.
but peeling tube out of fire hose seem like a lot of work.

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The company I work for sells a product i think save some labor from trying to peel the inner tube from fire hose btw we sell fire hose also. there are 2 varities avaiable one is a nylon sock avaiable from a .67" id to 6" id the sleeve comes up to 300ft in length.
there is even a version that has a velcro Clousure (industrial Velcro) so you can wrap around and zip closed really ideal for long lenght applications. you can contact me or most hydraulic hose shops would have it.
but peeling tube out of fire hose seem like a lot of work.

Good Luck
My understanding is that nylon is not very good chafe material. Dunno for sure.
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Just by 2" tubular climbing webbing for $0.65/foot.

Last for years, very slippery inside, and MUCH simpler. You'll have a new boat before this wears out.

BlueWater 2" Climb-Spec Tubular Webbing at REI.com
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Last for years, very slippery inside, and MUCH simpler. You'll have a new boat before this wears out.

BlueWater 2" Climb-Spec Tubular Webbing at REI.com

Nylon.

OK.

I am new at this chafe during a hurricane thing ya know.
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I have used it for chafe protection on hawsers on much larger vessels just as it is.
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The greater the distance between a fairlead and its associated cleat, the more "sawing" action permitted, as the rope stretches & relaxes under load/unload.
Accordingly, where practical, I recommend locating cleats as close to fairleads as will allow comfortable line work - or better yet, replacing fairleads with cleats (when possible).

Ive often used chains, wrapped around dolphin pilings; with rope lines shackled to chain, then run to boat.
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