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Old 10-01-2012, 15:31   #1
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Either the Captain or Pilot is in Trouble !

Hard to believe a passenger ship which needs a 26 foot draft would enter 14 foot water.

Cruiseship runs aground on reef in Bahamas

I got a kick on his comments right towards the end of the video... how the heck can you inject a porn comment on this is something only the narrater can explain!

Cruise Ship Grounding in Grand Bahama - YouTube
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Re: Either the Captain or Pilot is in trouble!

I wonder if they had insurance or if the skipper was licensed?
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Re: Either the Captain or Pilot is in trouble!

I think the narrator exaggerates too much in his second video. Maybe ha$ a motive.

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Re: Either the Captain or Pilot is in trouble!

the Captain quite and just before this happened and one of the cooks tryed bringing the ship in!
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I think the narrator exaggerates too much in his second video. Maybe ha$ a motive.

I agree. Just a bunch of hogwash. A good storm with a rip tide can do the same damage in 20' of water. Or a cruiser anchoring where he/she shouldn't.
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Re: Either the Captain or Pilot is in trouble!

Its a cruise ship, I am sure they were licensed and insured. Lucaya entrance is not a trivial inlet. Its sad for the damage, but its even sadder how much damage there is on the reefs of S.E bahamas and Abacos. Like the ones on Rum cay and Mayaguana. Hurricanes, people dumping trash like appliances etc, and fishing with bleach would be the biggest causes of dying reefs.
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Re: Either the Captain or Pilot is in trouble!

This is perhaps a little off topic: I cannot help but reflect on it, that these modern cruise ships are unbelievably ugly to behold, no matter how efficient they might be.
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I wonder if they had insurance or if the skipper was licensed?
Heard he got his 6-pack recently.
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@ Astrid

Ugly is an euphemism. Packing as many passengers as possible on a floating condo-complex. With no clue of environment, no real sense of topography, the incidents are oiling up. YT is a nice source for disaster-collectors. The pile of accidents and incidents is growing, waiting for the real disaster to come.
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Re: Either the Captain or Pilot is in trouble!

@MacG,

They do have the appearance of a disaster waiting to happen. One cannot help but wonder if some old timers looked at the huge liners of the early 20th century, like Titanic, in the same fashion.
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Heard he got his 6-pack recently.
Really? Had me fooled. Well accidents do happen.
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Re: Either the Captain or Pilot is in trouble!

After sailing on large ships for a few years, I've seen and heard the Conning officers give the wrong helm order a few times. And this is a good example of what can and could happen.
That is why certain bridge officers are suppost to be alert to possible navigation errors and correct them. But they have to be alert also... A minor detail there. Usually the Pilot has the conn and the since the Captain is held responsible, he is overseeing the Pilot, and the Navigation officer, 2nd Mate, keeps the Captain informed of where the ship is in the channel. That is the usual command chain on the bridge of a ship. But gremlins do stick their fingers in there and cause a confusion factor that is hazardous to the ship and the deck officers careers.
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Re: Either the Captain or Pilot is in trouble!

I certainly don't see the grounding helping any bridge officer's career.
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Re: Either the Captain or Pilot is in trouble!

Damn, that is an ugly boat. I've seen more charm in a city bus.
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This sort of stuff ONLY happens when folk know what they are doing .
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