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Old 11-04-2019, 19:26   #16
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Re: Do you have a 360 white light on your dinghy?

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Wrong on several counts.



A 360 degree sternlight is an oxymoron.


It's either a sternlight or an "all-round light". They are very different.


“Sternlight” means a white light placed as nearly as practicable at the stern showing an unbroken light over an arc of the horizon of 135 degrees and so fixed as to show the light 67.5 degrees from right aft on each side of the vessel.


“All-round light” means a light showing an unbroken light over an arc of the horizon of 360 degrees.


A "red and green bowlight" is never required. It is an optional way of showing sidelights. Combined lights are an option on smaller vessels. There is no requirement for them to be at the bow.



"“Sidelights” means a green light on the starboard side and a red light on the port side each showing an unbroken light over an arc of the horizon of 112.5 degrees and so fixed as to show the light from the right ahead to 22.5 degrees abaft the beam on its respective side. In a vessel of less
than 20 metres in length the sidelights may be combined in one lantern carried on the fore and aft centreline of the vessel. "



A boat as small as most dinghys [sic] would be less than 7 metres and so requires lights according to its maximum* speed.



A power-driven vessel of less than 12 metres in length may in lieu of the lights prescribedin paragraph (a) of this Rule exhibit an all-round white light and sidelights;

a power-driven vessel of less than 7 metres in length whose maximum speed does not exceed 7 knots may in lieu of the lights prescribed in paragraph (a) of this Rule exhibit an all-round white light and shall, if practicable, also exhibit sidelights;


So a normal sized dinghy with a small outboard only requires an all round white light.



*N.B. What is maximum speed?
If you keep the speed of your planing inflatable which is capable of 20 knots below 7 knots when motoring, is your "maximum speed" 7 or 20?


Cockcroft says:
"It does not apply to a vessel capable of more than 7 knots
which is proceeding at reduced speed"







How did you get your "Captain" qualification/title?
Wrong in Florida! Bring your Dinghy to Florida we can use more money in our states coffers if your dinghy is mechanically powered. The USCG may not ticket you but any Florida LEO sure will. The Colregs and Inland Rules are not the only boating laws one must be familiar with. By the way the same rules apply in NC. Maybe Papua NG doesn't impose any additional rules but many other localities do and it pays to know what they are. Your corrections on the stern and bow lights are technically correct, but on most dinghy size vessels all-round light is typically mounted at the stern and the side lights mounted at the bow and I think everyone here understood what I was talking about.
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Old 11-04-2019, 20:46   #17
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Re: Do you have a 360 white light on your dinghy?

Or a better idea is to avoid Florida!
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Old 11-04-2019, 22:41   #18
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Re: Do you have a 360 white light on your dinghy?

I never have cared much about silly laws, but we like our in-town party nights so get back to the boat after dark a lot. For fear for my own life YES I do run lights on the dinghy, not 360 but a set of removable nav and stern lights. Why wouldn't you.... dinghy accidents are the number one cause of death or injury to cruisers IIRC.... your boat might cost hundreds of thousands of dollars, it's a 50 buck piece of kit that can save your life. Don't cheap out.
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Old 12-04-2019, 05:05   #19
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Re: Do you have a 360 white light on your dinghy?

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.... dinghy accidents are the number one cause of death or injury to cruisers IIRC.... y
yes, but mostly from getting into and out of them
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Re: Do you have a 360 white light on your dinghy?

'want a cheap all round white light for your dinghy that will not be blocked by passengers in the dinghy? Simply attach a white LED to the top of a bicycle helmet.
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Do you have a 360 white light on your dinghy?

I’ve been stopped and questioned about my lights by a Fl water cop in S Fl.
After showing him the printing on the Navisafe lights that says USCG approved, 2NM, there was no more question. Showed him our two vests and we were on our way.

I have wondered about the fire extinguisher, flares thing myself.
It may sound silly, but way back in the 80’s when I rode Jetskis, we were required to carry a fire extinguisher, maybe because it was an inboard engine? I don’t know.
So what are the US inland equipment requirements for a dinghy?
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Re: Do you have a 360 white light on your dinghy?

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I’ve been stopped and questioned about my lights by a Fl water cop in S Fl.
After showing him the printing on the Navisafe lights that says USCG approved, 2NM, there was no more question. Showed him our two vests and we were on our way.

I have wondered about the fire extinguisher, flares thing myself.
It may sound silly, but way back in the 80’s when I rode Jetskis, we were required to carry a fire extinguisher, maybe because it was an inboard engine? I don’t know.
So what are the US inland equipment requirements for a dinghy?
Florida has this if under 16’:

https://myfwc.com/boating/safety-edu...under-16-feet/
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Re: Do you have a 360 white light on your dinghy?

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I’ve been stopped and questioned about my lights by a Fl water cop in S Fl.
After showing him the printing on the Navisafe lights that says USCG approved, 2NM, there was no more question. Showed him our two vests and we were on our way.

I have wondered about the fire extinguisher, flares thing myself.
It may sound silly, but way back in the 80’s when I rode Jetskis, we were required to carry a fire extinguisher, maybe because it was an inboard engine? I don’t know.
So what are the US inland equipment requirements for a dinghy?
Here’s NY requirements. It appears you need an anchor and a fire extinguisher under 16’:

Safety Equipment-NYSHBCA
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Old 12-04-2019, 08:29   #24
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Re: Do you have a 360 white light on your dinghy?

I have everything but the fire extinguisher, I guess when I get back to the US, I’ll put one in the compartment that the fuel tank is in.
Funny, I got the USCG auxiliary sticker and don’t have one.
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Re: Do you have a 360 white light on your dinghy?

Yes. All around white light, gps, VHF, life jackets.
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Re: Do you have a 360 white light on your dinghy?

Yes. I have the same Navisafe lights as a64pilot mentions in his posts above. The work well. Seem to be well made. Easy to detach if you want to remove them for security ashore or when to bring the dinghy aboard. They have been on my dinghy for about 2 years so far. Nothing but good things to report.
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Re: Do you have a 360 white light on your dinghy?

The Navisafe lights are waterproof, and even float if you drop one.
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Do you have a 360 white light on your dinghy?

I’ve passed plenty of cop boats at night with my 3 way Navi ( red/green/stern white) and never even been looked at. I have been pulled over during the day for a safety inspection several times in KW by different authorities. I think it helps keeping the light elevated on the pole above head level.
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Re: Do you have a 360 white light on your dinghy?

We are in La Paz, Baja California Sur, and I think our dinghy is the only one here that is equipped with lights at all. To answer the OP’s original question, our white light is not 360°, it’s just a cheap battery-powered light that clamps to the transom.

Frankly, I’m surprised that virtually no other dinghies here use any form of light (not even a flashlight, for crying out loud!) and yet they zip all over the bay, often after enjoying themselves to an excess. Crazy!

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Re: Do you have a 360 white light on your dinghy?

In 9 years we have never used an actual fixed light. Sometimes I'll bring a flashlight but rarely turn it on. We have a pretty big dingy too, 13' with a 30hp. Regularly run on plane at night without ever even coming close to hitting anything.

Lights mess with my night vision.
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