Cruise Ship Costa Concordia - MERGED THREADS

[David M]

Nice, but their drawing is South up!

[HappySeagull]

and from derspeigel..
The Doomed Costa Concordia: A Maritime Disaster that Was Waiting to Happen - SPIEGEL ONLINE - News - International

They even suggest somewhere I read,that there was a mutiny of sorts in the wheelhouse.Maybe they threw the captain off the ship.

[Therapy]

Two days to go from 36 to 47 pages.

I don't have the energy to get through them.

Someone please recap what happend.

Not all the speculation and comments mind you. Just what happened.

[goboatingnow]

Originally Posted by Therapy

Two days to go from 36 to 47 pages.

I don't have the energy to get through them.

Someone please recap what happend.

Not all the speculation and comments mind you. Just what happened.

Big ship, 4200 pax, rocks, sank, 15 dead, 11 missing

now add at your convience

* playboy captain
* "drove it like a Ferrari"
* goofed a turn
* cried like a baby
* ran round on bridge
* was distracted by guest on bridge
* was very distracted by cute Moldavian girl on bridge
* ate a meal one hour before or after crash!
* left with laptop, subsequently removed by other blonde girl in hotel
* Fell , tripped or landed in lifebat along with 1st and 3rd officiers
* did or didnt oversea rescue
* coward and chicken or just panic stricken and shocked
* AIS tracks all over the place from multiple unverified sources
* black box is or isnt working
* crew mutinied and lowered boats aided by other costa captian aboard
* manslaughter charges derilicition of duty etc
* Port captain hero, denies it
* salvors not yet appointed
* What roles bosses, Costa played

whew

[Therapy]

Originally Posted by goboatingnow

Big ship, 4200 pax, rocks, sank, 15 dead, 11 missing

now add at your convience

* playboy captain
* "drove it like a Ferrari"
* goofed a turn
* cried like a baby
* ran round on bridge
* was distracted by guest on bridge
* was very distracted by cute Moldavian girl on bridge
* ate a meal one hour before or after crash!
* left with laptop, subsequently removed by other blonde girl in hotel
* Fell , tripped or landed in lifebat along with 1st and 3rd officiers
* did or didnt oversea rescue
* coward and chicken or just panic stricken and shocked
* AIS tracks all over the place from multiple unverified sources
* black box is or isnt working
* crew mutinied and lowered boats aided by other costa captian aboard
* manslaughter charges derilicition of duty etc
* Port captain hero, denies it
* salvors not yet appointed
* What roles bosses, Costa played

whew

Thanks gbn.

I'll check back in a few more days.

[S/V Alchemy]

Originally Posted by Rakuflames

I don't know. That could be very inaccurate. If you consume too much alcohol and then have an accident, your blood alcohol level may still be rising several hours later. You might not have been legally impaired when the other guy hit you, but by the time you were tested, would test higher. Not that you should have been driving, but that can happen. It pretty much has to be started at the time of the accident. That wasn't going to happen in the Costa incident.

Agreed, but if you were going to look for "contributing factors beyond sheer incompetence and/or thinking with his testicles", you might start near the bar.

[S/V Alchemy]

Originally Posted by Erik C

He was tested, negative for alcohol or drugs.

News to me. Thanks. Now there is really no excuse, is there?

[capngeo]

Originally Posted by S/V Alchemy

News to me. Thanks. Now there is really no excuse, is there?

Perhaps shoulda checked his testosterone level instead?

[christian.kautz]

Originally Posted by goboatingnow

Big ship, 4200 pax, rocks, sank, 15 dead, 11 missing

now add at your convience ........

well, u wrote Ferrari - i only miss the word "powerslide" ;-)

[S/V Alchemy]

Originally Posted by David M

At my last drug test the drug lab tech told me they can discern between poppy seeds and someone who actually abuses opiates.

Interesting. I wonder how many poppy seeds you'd have to eat to even register. Poppy seeds aren't really the source of the opium...which itself is under half the strength of processed heroin...it's the poppy fruit's "latex", the sap that leaks out of cuts to the fruit.

I know nutmeg in large doses can have some effects, but I figure as long as I can still taste the rum, I haven't ground too much into the sundowner.

[S/V Alchemy]

Originally Posted by capngeo

Perhaps shoulda checked his testosterone level instead?

Checking the depth sounder would've sufficed.

[avb3]

Originally Posted by goboatingnow

Big ship, 4200 pax, rocks, sank, 15 dead, 11 missing

now add at your convience

* playboy captain
* "drove it like a Ferrari"
* goofed a turn
* cried like a baby
* ran round on bridge
* was distracted by guest on bridge
* was very distracted by cute Moldavian girl on bridge
* ate a meal one hour before or after crash!
* left with laptop, subsequently removed by other blonde girl in hotel
* Fell , tripped or landed in lifebat along with 1st and 3rd officiers
* did or didnt oversea rescue
* coward and chicken or just panic stricken and shocked
* AIS tracks all over the place from multiple unverified sources
* black box is or isnt working
* crew mutinied and lowered boats aided by other costa captian aboard
* manslaughter charges derilicition of duty etc
* Port captain hero, denies it
* salvors not yet appointed
* What roles bosses, Costa played

whew

Wow... that's very good and pretty well nailed it!

YOU win the lotto to be the Reader's Digest author

[chala]

Originally Posted by hellosailor

Chala, how come you keepmentioning the Lusitania, when that was an accident caused by political intigues, lies, brinksmanship, and baiting a combatant?
Time will tell.

Originally Posted by chala

Of course asking the captain to take the blame is the easy way off. Lusitania revisited.

Obviously I have a different version of the Lusitania event.
Also at the moment silly games are in preparation in the region. Both subject being political they have no place in this Forum.

Originally Posted by hellosailor

I also look askance at the translations being issued. When one says the ship hit a stone--that tells me immeidately that translation must be questioned. In US YnGlitch there is a difference between a rock and a stone. One hits a rock, not a stone, meaning the translator may be making other subtle errors. Functional, yes. Precise, no. One might have a rock, stone, or pebble in their shoe, perhaps they mistook "shoe" for "ship" as well. Or perhaps in British English the usage differs?
Time will tell.

Good point.
“Tourist” may mean Mickey mouse, one way of expressing his disappointment of the electronic navigation system, why?
“Ferrari” mean glamorous, not speed and burnout.
“Please” mean please understand, a polite way of telling someone that this someone has only a remote knowledge of the situation.
“Manually” may mean that it has gone from “follow the route” to “go to cursor” or “go to waypoint” or that the ship is not on autopilot any more.

[goboatingnow]

Originally Posted by chala

Obviously I have a different version of the Lusitania event.
Also at the moment silly games are in preparation in the region. Both subject being political they have no place in this Forum.

Good point.
“Tourist” may mean Mickey mouse, one way of expressing his disappointment of the electronic navigation system, why?
“Ferrari” mean glamorous, not speed and burnout.
“Please” mean please understand, a polite way of telling someone that this someone has only a remote knowledge of the situation.
“Manually” may mean that it has gone from “follow the route” to “go to cursor” or “go to waypoint” or that the ship is not on autopilot any more.

There's no evidence of silly games over the Concordia. In fact Italy just sent a very experienced commander to oversea the last of the rescue. The big issue now is to decide to allow the salvage to begin while the rescue searches continue. sMIT is standing by as it has got the diesel recovery contract. The salvage contract is about to be awarded. So far everything bring done well.

Dave

[Pelagic]

Originally Posted by HappySeagull

and from derspeigel..
The Doomed Costa Concordia: A Maritime Disaster that Was Waiting to Happen - SPIEGEL ONLINE - News - International

They even suggest somewhere I read,that there was a mutiny of sorts in the wheelhouse.Maybe they threw the captain off the ship.

Thanks…. Very good article

From this report Master was on his Cell phone chatting with his retired colleague while making such a tight maneuver right up to point of impact……

This will have consequences about banning cell phones on commercial bridges…. which I am totally in favor of