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Old 08-12-2012, 05:14   #1186
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Agree precisely, leaving a ship like this there isn't going to happen. As always things appear to move very slowly and every proposed action by the salvor would be scrutinised ad infinitum......Patience methinks.
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Old 08-12-2012, 05:23   #1187
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I am familiar with this kind of patience.

We 'll talk next year say June.

If nothing has happened, you know the answer.

I am sceptic. Because of the fact that they claimed to have made substantial progress which turned out to be not factual.
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Old 08-12-2012, 15:33   #1188
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In the past i would have expected the salvage to be further along than it is.....but these days with the increased focus on safety to those involved and the protection of the environment, then what i am seeing progress wise is exactly what i would expect....

The salvors have a mammoth task ahead of them and are probably doing as good a job as anyone under the circumstances.....

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Old 08-12-2012, 20:01   #1189
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On the contrary.

With present technology and heavy equipment available, the salvage of this vessel as a whole is not unrealistic.

Question is, what's going on behind the doors of the politics and accountables?

Read all the reports and compare them with today's situation.

Compare this with the timespan of a real difficult task: the Kursk project. In much more severe conditions.

Lots of discussions will follow, in the end the blowtorches will come. In spite of all beautiful plans .......
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My definition of success is getting her into the scrapping dock in more or less one piece. Anything else I am counting as failure. I'll even accept torching off everything above main deck level but the hull has to be in one piece. That is what they are claiming they can do.
I agree getting her there to drydock in one piece with minimal pollution is the goal. I also think achieving that is entirely possible when you compare this with salvaging the Kursk.

First stage of preparing the seafloor and stabilizing is not very evident and subject to many weather delays for safety reasons, but from the news updates things are moving forward
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Old 08-12-2012, 23:04   #1191
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On the contrary.

With present technology and heavy equipment available, the salvage of this vessel as a whole is not unrealistic. I know, where did i say anything to the contrary.....??

Question is, what's going on behind the doors of the politics and accountables?
I thought you knew all about the conspiracies involved in the project, you are constantly alluding to them......

Read all the reports and compare them with today's situation.

Compare this with the timespan of a real difficult task: the Kursk project. In much more severe conditions. The only comparison between the Kursk and the CC is that both tasks require(d) a thinking outside of the box approach, after that there is no comparison....

Lots of discussions will follow, in the end the blowtorches will come. In spite of all beautiful plans .......
Honestly? i think your bias is getting the better of you....
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Old 18-12-2012, 21:32   #1192
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CBS, 60 Minutes, has produced a current report on the salvage effort. The video can be seen here . . . .

Costa Concordia: Salvaging a shipwreck - 60 Minutes - CBS News
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Old 19-12-2012, 09:10   #1193
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CBS, 60 Minutes, has produced a current report on the salvage effort. The video can be seen here . . . .

Costa Concordia: Salvaging a shipwreck - 60 Minutes - CBS News
Thanks....caught it Sunday night and thought it was pretty good.
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Old 19-12-2012, 11:17   #1194
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CBS, 60 Minutes, has produced a current report on the salvage effort. The video can be seen here . . . .

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Thanks! I missed the show. It was a great explanation of what they are doing. It should be interesting to watch as it happens. I wish them luck with this difficult procedure.
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Old 19-12-2012, 12:08   #1195
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When the time comes I'm sure there is going to be a lot of news media onsite to document the event. So getting it right is a big priority for their businesses. We'll most likely be watching it on the Discovery channel for years to come.
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We'll most likely be watching it on the Discovery channel for years to come.
I bet there's going to be a pretty big production and documentary of this whole thing. It will be cool to watch a show with some really detailed and inside looks at the whole process.
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Looks like more delays:

Costa Concordia salvage date delayed to fall of 2013 - Bowling Green Cruise | Examiner.com
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Like Island Hopper says: everything is going as planned.

The reality proves otherwise.

At fall 2013 Costa Concordia will still be at the site.

Red comments are as useless as ever. The object is to gain time till nature intervenes.
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From what I'd heard, "Get it right the first time" is the priority here and "fast" has no part in that. It sounds like the salvors are being very conservative in the effort to ensure they do get it right the first time. Little glitches like needing to hire 120(?) divers to supervise piling placement, and then needing to hire trainers to train the trainers to train the divers...

Why should this be any faster or cheaper than any other "boat" project? They're breaking new ground, in terms of the scale of the project. Probably be engineering schools talking about this for the next fifty years, whether it works or comes apart.
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First of all: there wouldn't be a 2nd time. The only time is the first.

If you had followed the whole issue - there was a lot of bravado by both Titan and Neri in the beginning which turned ot to be flat BS.
Now they discover the hard reality and have to reset their options.

The fact is, they cannot handle it. Therefore any justifiable delay is more than welcome.

Next season I'll be there and see it with my own eyes.
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