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Old 26-01-2012, 06:59   #856
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Do you reckon I could get a parachute as hand carry on a flight.
Don't see why not and you could then sit on it as it would be a lot more comfortable than the average cattle class seat.
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Old 26-01-2012, 07:44   #857
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This update is a computer translation of a Giglio News report based on information provided by the department of Civil Protection . . . .

Isola del Giglio
Province of Grosseto
The Mayor

NOTICE TO THE PUBLIC
SHIPWRECK COSTA CONCORDIA
UPDATE TO 21 HOURS 25 January 2012

Started the first drill test on the tanks of the ship

Continuing operations of Smit - Neri on the ship Concordia. Today work continued exploration and initial drilling commenced to test the tightness of metal tanks, Saturday, confirms the company is expected to levy fuel.

This morning he resumed the search for missing last night after the activities had been suspended due to bad weather conditions. The Prefecture of Grosseto announced this evening that have been identified three other persons of German nationality. Then down to 19 missing, while 16 victims, of which three have not yet been identified.

In the evening Arpat provided the first analysis of the conditions under which they operate teams of rescue workers engaged in the search for the missing. The USL of Grosseto in charge of evaluating the data analyzed by Arpat, waiting to have available the results of microbiological tests, should suspend research activities in some areas of the ship, where the divers are not working.

As part of its contingency planning for a possible oil pollution initiated by the Province of Grosseto with coastal municipalities, starts tomorrow, January 26 and will last for the next two days, a training course for volunteers and staff from the local action on cleaning in the event of stranding of pollutants. The course involves all coastal municipalities between Follonica Capalbio and is an activity of prevention and training, according to a model of organization and training have experienced in recent years in other areas of our territory. It is organized by the Department of Civil Protection, Ispra Legambiente and, in close collaboration with the Tuscany Region, the Province of Grosseto and the same Municipalities.

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Italian Cruise ship captain Francesco Schettino began his new job as a bus driver yesterday . . .


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This update of today's Concordia activities is a computer translation of a Giglio News report based on information provided by the Department of Civil Protection. The translation has some obvious errors. The italian version is here: Concordia: aggiornamento del 26 Gennaio, ore 21 | isola-del-giglio | news

Isola del Giglio
Province of Grosseto
The Mayor

NOTICE TO THE PUBLIC
SHIPWRECK COSTA CONCORDIA
UPDATE TO 21 HOURS 26 January 2012

Person will be appointed a new actuator.
Person will be appointed a second actuator for the management of Concord will be responsible for checking the range of waste extracted from the ship and will operate in coordination with the Region of Tuscany and the Province of Grosseto. This was announced by the Commissioner Franco Gabrielli, CEO at a press conference today, January 26, occurred after the joint meeting of the Advisory Committee to the Technical-Scientific Committee.

Search for missing people.
Operations have continued today to search for the missing and 16 confirmed victims, including 14 identified, down to 18 missing. The search will continue until they are verified all areas of the ship that are accessible to rescuers.

Operations on the ship.
Along with the search for the missing continues even today, the second program, the operations of the companies on the ship Concordia Smit - Blacks, authorized by Costa Cruises to fuel recovery activities. Today, after the latest sweeps began flanging. This operation consists of the installation for each tank of two flanges that allow the attachment of the two pipes that are used to extract the fuel, and enter the water in the tanks. It is confirmed for Saturday the start of pumping fuel.

Monitoring Arpat / Ispra.
Today on the website Arpat were published analysis on the latest water samples: substances that may constitute the major source of pollution are below the detection limits. The monitoring of the water, with the cooperation of Ispra, is done on samples taken from five different points: the bow, stern, port and starboard of the ship near the island of Giglio watermaker. It was chosen as the "white", ie as the value of comparison, the sample to a mile away from the coast. The water analysis is part of the plan to prevent pollution of the seas and defense which is a measure under the plan for the recovery of fuel to protect the environment. In addition to the usual monitoring data, the analysis published today on the site Arpat also report the values ​​of the iridescent stain noticed a few days ago and already treated with absorbent cloth and rigid stranded ocean. It is confirmed that they are not elements of significant pollution.

Training course for pollution to the ground.
It belongs to the precautionary measures provided for the coastal areas, the training that takes place today and tomorrow for volunteers and staff of local action on cleaning in the event of stranding of pollutants. The course is organized by the Department of Civil Protection, Ispra Legambiente and, in close collaboration with the Tuscany Region, the Province of Grosseto and the municipalities concerned. The training day, developed with short simulations, is devoted to techniques for removing stranded products based on the type of coast - rocky, sandy and pebbly, the organization of the team in the cleaning and temporary storage and disposal of the harvested product . The course follows a pattern of organization and training have experienced in recent years in other areas of our territory.

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More stories from the captain below. Any thoughts on who he, as captain, might refer to as "the manager"?

More leaks from the investigation into Schettino emerged on Tuesday, with a recording of a phone conversation the day after the disaster in which he is heard recounting the tragedy to his interlocutor.
"When I understood that the ship was listing, I upped and left," he says at one point -- an apparent contradiction to a statement to prosecutors last week in which he said he fell on to a lifeboat and could not get back on board.
Schettino also pins the blame on unnamed others for the manoeuvre, saying: "It was the advice of the manager: 'Go that way, go that way'."
"They pissed me off with their 'Pass through there, pass through there'."
"The rocks were there, but the instruments I had weren't showing them, so I went through," he added. "So, here we are and it's me who's paying for everything."



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More stories from the captain below. Any thoughts on who he, as captain, might refer to as "the manager"?

More leaks from the investigation into Schettino emerged on Tuesday, with a recording of a phone conversation the day after the disaster in which he is heard recounting the tragedy to his interlocutor.
"When I understood that the ship was listing, I upped and left," he says at one point -- an apparent contradiction to a statement to prosecutors last week in which he said he fell on to a lifeboat and could not get back on board.
Schettino also pins the blame on unnamed others for the manoeuvre, saying: "It was the advice of the manager: 'Go that way, go that way'."
"They pissed me off with their 'Pass through there, pass through there'."
"The rocks were there, but the instruments I had weren't showing them, so I went through," he added. "So, here we are and it's me who's paying for everything."



*Sailing close to islands 'helps enrich product': cruise chief

Ohhhh the poor, dear man ...
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CNN has a similar transcript here:
Cruise ship captain admits 'mistake' in deposition - CNN.com
but they have it as managers and that would be the company.Elsewhere on CNN (oops-it's on your link, At Sea) they say the 1st mate is also to be charged, -if so that sums as the Captain, the 1st and 2nd officers all looking very bad in this....oh, and of course the head-waiter!

edit. looking around on CNN I found at last one eyewitness account (from a married couple watching a magic show) that actually has an entire timeline from first strike onward. The first strike was felt as a "shudder"
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Not entirely surprised that the impact with the rocks was felt as a shudder. The sheer mass of big ships absorbs quite a bit of the impact energy. Given that the collision was more of a raking blow instead of a head on into the rocks, one would really not expect anything particularly dramatic. Even Titanic, at a little over half the weight, transmitted little more than a slight shudder to most passengers and crew as she scraped along iceberg's submerged mass.
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The instruments he had weren't showing the rocks.
Darn, don't you hate it when the rock-o-meter isn't working?

"Captain, portside lateral rockometer display is on the fritz again."
"Very well, fix it right after the VDR."
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Regardless of a rock outcropping, it was foolish to come that close to a shoreline at that speed.
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"rock-o-meter" ! good one!
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References to Concordia's sonar have appeared in the press, and the captain's reference to a rock detecting a instrument made me think that Concordia may have been equipped with side scan sonar. They are an effective rock detector.

Schettino may have been referring to a Electronic Charts Display and Information System (ECDIS) in this regard. I understand that it displays depths, but I do not know if it warns of shallows near the ship vs. sounder data. It may alarm based on charted depth below some limit.
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...yes,interpreting Schettino's unguarded comments (and all the other comments too), as having a kernel of truth, is the only way to detail a speculation.
Too bad that the translations from Italian make it fuzzier for non-speakers.
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...yes,interpreting Schettino's unguarded comments (and all the other comments too), as having a kernel of truth, is the only way to detail a speculation.
Too bad that the translations from Italian make it fuzzier for non-speakers.
Perhaps the biggest factor in what has occurred is rats jumping off the sinking ship because this created questions that the public refused to wait for answers. We all make mistakes, granted his had greater consequents than most of ours. The result was that Schettion has had him self branded as a coward who refuses to take responsibility for his action and a man? who's word can not be trusted.

If it wasn't for the tragic loss of life ... this has all of the hallmarks of the Gilbert & Sullivan opera.
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I asked the editors of Giglio News if they could learn the status of the VDR. Here is a Google Translate interpretation of their reply:
Good evening,
Voyage Data Recorder is in possession of the judiciary and fully functional.
Will be analyzed during the incident evidence.

All the best, the editors GiglioNews

The investigators will have lots of detailed information regarding who did what, when they did it, status of systems, and details of the watertight compartments. Eventually an interesting and complete report will be published.
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