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Old 22-09-2015, 20:32   #1
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Crash/Collision Bag???

I suspect that most of us (who do more than coastal cruising) have a ditch or abandon ship bag.

But do you have a dedicated crash or collision bag, and what do you have in the bag?

I have some emergency repair items, but they are scattered around the boat.

What is your approach?
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I suspect that most of us (who do more than coastal cruising) have a ditch or abandon ship bag.

But do you have a dedicated crash or collision bag, and what do you have in the bag?

I have some emergency repair items, but they are scattered around the boat.

What is your approach?
I keep all my repair kit in one locker. The problem I worry about is gaining access to the hull areas that need to be repaired. It's not easy if the hull is behind fixed cabinetry or equipment.

I'm prepared to dive the boat to plug a hole from the outside, presuming that's possible in conditions, but conditions that produce holes in boats and are also conducive for diving are rare.

Beyond what could be done with a tapered plug and some hole patching gunk, I'm not prepared to really deal with. My boat is technically a "floater" so it shouldn't sink completely no matter what happens, but that's not a premise I'm really comfortable testing.

My first boat acquired 4' of water in the cabin suddenly when a guest kicked open a seacock. Given how fast that boat filled with water, there's just not that much time to effect repairs and no pump will keep up with a serious holing.
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Re: Crash/Collision Bag???

It's a good idea. Got me thinking.
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Re: Crash/Collision Bag???

You can't go wrong with a collision mat. Check out the video on Yachting Monthly's Crash Boat series:

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I suspect that most of us (who do more than coastal cruising) have a ditch or abandon ship bag.

But do you have a dedicated crash or collision bag, and what do you have in the bag?

I have some emergency repair items, but they are scattered around the boat.

What is your approach?
We share the very detailed list of our grab bag contents on our blog. We are sailing around the world and have crossed oceans, so the list may be more than coastal cruisers need
We're not supposed to put the link to the blog in the post but you can easily find the list by going to the website below our names below and clicking on the sailing checklists menu tab at the top, then you'll see Grab Bag Contents List under the standard operating procedures section
Hope it's helpful!
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I keep all my repair kit in one locker. The problem I worry about is gaining access to the hull areas that need to be repaired. It's not easy if the hull is behind fixed cabinetry or equipment.

I'm prepared to dive the boat to plug a hole from the outside, presuming that's possible in conditions, but conditions that produce holes in boats and are also conducive for diving are rare.

Beyond what could be done with a tapered plug and some hole patching gunk, I'm not prepared to really deal with. My boat is technically a "floater" so it shouldn't sink completely no matter what happens, but that's not a premise I'm really comfortable testing.

My first boat acquired 4' of water in the cabin suddenly when a guest kicked open a seacock. Given how fast that boat filled with water, there's just not that much time to effect repairs and no pump will keep up with a serious holing.
A plumbers wax seal (used ashore to seat a toilet to a soil pipe) is a valuable item everyone should have in their collision/crash bag. It easily conforms to any shape and will stop a leak in moments. The attachment is the chandlers high priced marine version but any plumbing supply store sells the wax seals (same product) for a buck or two.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?list=PLl...&v=ZvorHXLZbIQ
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Another option is Z-Spar Splash Zone Epoxy Putty, which works like the waxie seal, but is considerably more adhesive and durable if the patch has to last more than a few days before repair. Just open the two cans, wet your hands in seawater first, the grab a big handful of putty (black) and hardener (yellow) one in each hand, and squish them together until they reach an olive green uniform color, then shove it in and mold like clay. It will cure in a couple hours underwater. You can even use it with plugs for irregular openings.

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