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Old 26-08-2018, 14:59   #76
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Re: "Captain" and "Skipper" as honorifics

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Re: "Captain" and "Skipper" as honorifics

It's a pretty good rule that anyone who seriously uses the honorific 'Captain' in ordinary use is a knob of the highest order. I am sure there are exceptions but I haven't met one yet.

On the ships I worked on the only people entitled to officially call themselves captain as an honorific was someone with a Master class 1 who had been captain of a foreign going commercial ship. And even then most of the good ones shunned the term except as it related to their work.

If someone asks if I am the captain that's fine. It's a job description, but I absolutely hate being called Captain Ben. On a small boat skipper seem much more appropriate.
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Re: "Captain" and "Skipper" as honorifics

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As a licensed Captain, in a formal situation where the other person does not know my name, yes, I expect to be addressed as "Captain." "Skipper" works too. If you do not know my name, what else do you call me?

What sort of licence do you have tha includes the word "Captain"?
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If someone asks if I am the captain that's fine. It's a job description, but I absolutely hate being called Captain Ben.

That's it in a nutshell!


I also subscribe to this statement from Wikipedia (under Honorifics)


Typically, honorifics are used as a style in the grammatical third person, and as a form of address in the second person. Use in the first person, by the honored dignitary, is uncommon or considered very rude and egotistical.
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Lots of people on this board addressing THEMSELVES as Captain.....
Its a worry
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Re: "Captain" and "Skipper" as honorifics

http://www.cruisersforum.com/forums/...1&d=1535327214

I bet you wouldnt call him Skipper or
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So much easier in Oz, skipper, admiral, master or whoever responds to "mate"!
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Once upon a time, there were manners and politeness. It is a small thing, but it is the stuff civility and civilization itself is made of.

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As a licensed Captain, in a formal situation where the other person does not know my name, yes, I expect to be addressed as "Captain." "Skipper" works too. If you do not know my name, what else do you call me?
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That seems to have gone all to hell. Now even the USCG refers to everyone driving a boat as "Captain".
I think it's a way to reinforce their sense of responsibility. I use the phrase "you're the captain" in boater education classes the same way. Hey, if you want kids to wear life jackets underway, or you want to restrict drinking until the boat is docked, you set the rules; you're the captain.

For the record, my own use of the term is only in jest. When I meet a classmate from my master's license class, we jokingly refer to each other as "Capt so-and-so." I never ask for, and actively discourage, anyone calling me that on the water!

For a master of a recreational or small commercial vessel, "Skipper" seems more appropriate to me. But I would answer to "Captain" from a stranger on the dock or the radio, when it's not worth the time it would take to correct them. It's not my job to give English lessons.
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Re: "Captain" and "Skipper" as honorifics

There a lot of pleasure craft operators who only have accreditation from the school of hard knocks - self taught on their own boat. There are others who have pursued education and attained a higher or lower degree of 3rd party accreditation. There are those who have a professional license and background. Any of these insisting on being addressed as Captain is guilty of a little pretention. Any of these being addressed as Captain by others is perfectly valid. The title vs. the job description as many have said. As long as not deigning to call yourself Captain is not a marker that you're abdicating the responsibilities of being a Captain. Removing the title does not remove the job description and your passengers and fellow boaters are counting on you taking your role seriously.
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Re: "Captain" and "Skipper" as honorifics

Most marina staff in UK address me as Skipper when they help me come along side or direct me to my berth and that's in a 26 footer, and I think that is OK. Although I have the title of Captain from my flying days I never use it whilst sailing or during day to day dealings with folk, it's only brought up if people happen to see my bank cards which still have that honorific on them as I haven't bothered to get them changed since I retired. Use of the honoric 'Commander' I think would be OTT as well although it is often used in aviation.
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Re: "Captain" and "Skipper" as honorifics

Dockhands and marina employees will address you as captain. It's convenient and indicates they prefer to take direction from you when you're docking.
On the vhf I will use the term Skipper or Captain when communicating with another vessel.
BUT if someone is operating a vessel in an unsafe or erratic fashion and I have to call them on the vhf I will address them as General.
As in:
"Hey there General...you may want to throttle back as this is all a No Wake Zone"
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Everyone in the marine service industry refers to you as "Cap" in my area. Particularly on the radio or while operating a vessel. In a situation where there are multiple people on the boat, they want to quickly and clearly identify the person they're communicating with.

While communicating instructions, my wife usually refers to me as 'skip'. That's her choice. Years ago she started with 'Cap' since that is what she heard everyone else using. Since I don't hold a license suggested 'skipper' might be more appropriate.
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Here is a good example of someone who will always be addressed as Captain
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The missus and I must disagree !


Very cute. (in a positive way, and a sincere compliment to you both)
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