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Old 26-11-2015, 12:32   #31
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Re: Boat Haul Out Using Railway Line - What are they called?

In the U.S., they are called "marine railways" (as mentioned several time previously.) Further, on the West Coast of this country, a "boatyard" is where your boat is hauled out for repairs or maintenance. A "marina" is where you park your boat in a "slip". The two terms are not interchangeable.
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Old 26-11-2015, 13:14   #32
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Re: Boat Haul Out Using Railway Line - What are they called?

The Sealift is becoming popular in Australia. Regarding cats- by a long shot ,it is the best way to go . The load is spread evently over the bridgedeck.

Second best would be a trolly that is wedged under cross beams.

Last resort , slings but with a heavy boat , risk of damage to duco !

A railway would include a trolly , for cats but never seen one.
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Re: Boat Haul Out Using Railway Line - What are they called?

Old time marine railways were far superior to and much safer than the travel-lifts and jack-stand setups of today. The one's I'm familiar with had an actual railroad car bases on railroad tracks that ran down a concrete slipway into the water which was like a launch ramp for trailer boats. A heavy duty electric or diesel donkey pulled the rail car with the boat on it out of the water to a turntable like in an locomotive rail yard. Your boat was pushed off on to one of the spoke sidings and away from the haul-out area. Where do you think the word "Haul-out" came from. Otherwise it would be called "Lift-out". The rail cars had three or four adjustable support arms extending vertically on both sides. The boat could be set up pretty much level and the support arms could be released (one at a time please) and angled out away from the sides of the boat to give free access to the entire topside are. This was simple and yard technicians were not needed for this. Nearly entire bottom was fully accessible at all times except for one tiny contact patch on the bottom of the keel. This could be accessed for painting by simply jacking the bow up a few inches and moving the shoring blocks a few inches. This would expose that last four inch square of keel bottom, no more moving jack-stands around and risking catastrophe. And, no freaking way would your boat ever blow over in hurricane either. The rail cars weighted tons with very low centers of gravity.
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Old 26-11-2015, 15:07   #34
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Old 26-11-2015, 19:29   #35
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They are called a "slipway" in New Zealand. I think that's universal marine language. Here they are often used to haul out super yachts which are too big (roughly 100' +++) for travel lifts. The vessel sits on a cradle with wheels and is winched up. Anything too big for a slipway needs a dry dock.
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Old 26-11-2015, 22:26   #36
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Re: Boat Haul Out Using Railway Line - What are they called?

Here on the Chesapeake and to my knowledge many other places it is a "marine railway", there are 2 of them here on Rockhold Creek still in use. There are many others in use on the Chesapeake.
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Re: Boat Haul Out Using Railway Line - What are they called?

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In the U.S., they are called "marine railways" (as mentioned several time previously.) Further, on the West Coast of this country, a "boatyard" is where your boat is hauled out for repairs or maintenance. A "marina" is where you park your boat in a "slip". The two terms are not interchangeable.
I'm in British Columbia and I agree with Fstbttms on the terminology. Of course, BC is also on the west coast (of Canada) if that means anything.
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Re: Boat Haul Out Using Railway Line - What are they called?

In Aust they are often referred to as "slipways". As in, I am going to slip the boat next week.

In Hong Kong, the local slipways are comprised of a timber cradle with adjustable arms that is pulled up greased rails comprised of timbers maybe 12" X 12" square. Big boats up to 100' handled no problem.




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I'm in British Columbia and I agree with Fstbttms on the terminology. Of course, BC is also on the west coast (of Canada) if that means anything.
No terminology is correct. It just depends on where you are:-
Sidewalks = Footpaths,
Elevators = Lifts
Freeway=Expressway=Motorway
Keep left=Keep right
Crosswalk=Pedestrian crossing
Slip=Berth
Sailboat=Yacht
Trail=Track
Meadow=Paddock=Pasture
Forest=Bush=Jungle
Gasoline=Petrol
Windshield=Windscreen
Trunk=Boot
Hood=Bonnet
Fender=Mudguard
100 mph=160 kph
Truck=Lorry
Blacktop=Tarmac
Paved=Sealed
Gravel=Loose metal
Red head=Bluey
Garbage=Rubbish
Trash=Waste
Candy=Lolly
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Re: Boat Haul Out Using Railway Line - What are they called?

Thought you might like a pic of the wooden rails slipway in a working boatyard on Cheung Chau, HK.

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And just for fun a pic of my mast stored on the disused slipway next door.

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Re: Boat Haul Out Using Railway Line - What are they called?

Sometimes our slipway needs a little nudge. Click image for larger version

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Re: Boat Haul Out Using Railway Line - What are they called?

It seems that in former British colonies (HK until July 1997 as I remember), and Australia, and NZ, a long time ago fortunately, that they are called Slipways. I believe they were once made slippery with soap or grease before they had tracks. New Zealand and Australia had an early British maritime history, with the likes of Cook, Flinders, and Bass, plus lots of others, (my ansestors sailed to NZ in 1849 escaping England)
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