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Old 16-02-2007, 20:56   #16
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I have to side with Gmac here. OK, I understand what you mean Louis with the boat "shear" and thus it's momentum putting strain on the rode and yadda yadda. But Stern on, I see firstly a greater surface area being presented to the wind that the bow would have presented. Afterall, it's this shape that stops the boat "sailing at anchor" in the first place. Second, Wave action hammering away at the stern must also place some very sharp pulling action on that rode. Relentless shock loading I would have thought.
Personly, I just could not put up with the wave action hammering under the stern. It drives me nuts when we are in the birth or at a warf or somewhere I have no controll of the wave/boat direction. It pounds so hard you think someone is running into the stern with a boat.
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Old 16-02-2007, 21:40   #17
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On the BC coast we have thousands of anchorages which are both current free and swelll free as does Tonga, etc etc.

Hakai area off the northern BC mainland has 811 Islands in 35 miles and almost as many anchorages, all current and swell free.

The load on the rudder when stern anchored is about the same as when tied in a marina, nearly zero.This to becomes obvious when you try it.
Northern BC I think I'd be more worried about the tidal changes, 16' at times. In a narrow channel which is where some of the anchorages are a second anchor is sometimes needed.

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Whoo.. 811 islands in 35mls. Must be fun navigating at night
We don't that's why there are soo many anchorages.
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Old 16-02-2007, 21:46   #18
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With all due respect Louis you're whacked !

To make a broad base assertion that all hull forms will anchor better stern too is just plain foolish. Yes I have tried to anchor stern too and my boat swings worse by a long shot than it does bow too. Without understanding hull forms, hydrodynamics and aerodynamics a broad based assumpions like yours gives you very little credibility. I'm not going to go into the simple physics as to why the vast majority of boats won't anchor well stern to but suffice it to say most won't and a yes a few will. I don't doubt that your boat swings less but most likely it's a rare combination of rig & keel placement plus hull form. We do it often, stern too, to catch a fine breeze on a hot day but on EVERY boat I've owned from Cape Dorys & Bristol's to Catalina's they all swing worse sern to but the breeze is nice..

What is your boat I'm really curios to know.
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Not wanting to sound geographically challenged but I think I'm going to have to. Where is BC, are we talking British Columbia? (he says with some embarrassment)

The one in Canada where they say they are the 2nd Best Place on Earth (thanks google). NB. Being in Godzone I did have to correct that Best Place bit but only a small bit . I do like Louis bit about of all those islands, sounds like a cool spot to suss.

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Thumbs up Gmac "cool spot"

I hope you like rain, cold rain, kinda like ice water between Nov. & March. That what BC is all about. Sailing season is about 6-7 months if you don't mind the hot month of July.

BC has few beaches and the ones there are private property. Look but don't touch is the motto.
Yeah, it is quite heavenly when one can get out and then have the time. I'll trade ya!............................................... ................_/)
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Old 17-02-2007, 15:22   #21
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Those of us whose boats sail alot - what about using a Bahamian mooring for your anchoring - that is setting 2 anchors perpendicular to ech other and mooring the boat between them She will swing with the wind direction but will sail very little.
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The orginal post was to solve the problem of swinging at anchor. A yoke will work somewhat if you have to two points wide enough and the wind does not blow to much.

I have tried this, it does work but it does put a lot more strain on the anchor and had to release it when the wind picked up.
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it does work but it does put a lot more strain on the anchor
I don't quite follow. You have tow anchors and the load would be shared between the two. How can it put more strain on the anchor?
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With all this discussion I think it would just be EZer to put up a riding sail.

I'm not promoting this guys product but the site has a good illustration.

http://www.bannerbaymarine.com/ars_benefits.php
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Two anchors vs yoke.

Alan,

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don't quite follow. You have tow (two?) anchors a
Lynx was refering to using a yoke (no mention of two anchors). The two anchor post was earlier in the thread.
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