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Old 28-05-2009, 14:05   #466
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Then again - maybe I'm misunderstanding the latest accounts. Is the procedure: Have blood drawn and TESTED at the hospital. And then take the remainder or B sample to the Sheriff's evidence room for storage?

If so, I'm amazed that Perdock's hasn't disappeared. Of course, defense counsel suspects that it isn't even his.
The other possibility, slomo, is that while Perdock's blood was drawn at the clinic / hospital, he and the cop who brought him there for the blood draw left together, with the drawn blood, and drove around for an indeterminate period of time.

When Perdock's blood was turned in hours later (24?), it may well be his but was a fresh draw taken after he had had time to sober up.

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Old 28-05-2009, 16:32   #467
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The other possibility, slomo, is that while Perdock's blood was drawn at the clinic / hospital, he and the cop who brought him there for the blood draw left together, with the drawn blood, and drove around for an indeterminate period of time.

When Perdock's blood was turned in hours later (24?), it may well be his but was a fresh draw taken after he had had time to sober up.

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If the drawn blood is exposed to air, can the alcohol evaporate? If the vial or whatever is left open, what happens to the integrity of a later test?

Why can't the hospital test on site? I understand they drew blood at the hospital and delivered for testing elsewhere. What's with that? I'm with slomo, confused.
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This is not my field at all. But, surely any evidentiary sample or sample B would be sealed. Nevertheless, raw blood will clot fairly quickly and probably need to be reliquified for subsequent BAC tests - whatever process is used would affect the result and need to be accounted for. If instead, anticoagulants were added at the time of draw, they too would affect the BAC result. Then, of course, there's the common practice of swabbing the injection site with alcohol before drawing a sample. None of this would (I think) affect DNA testing.
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I was asking about this particular county. The reason being that most likely this is not the first cover up to protect their own. They seem use to it. They just didn't know some boaters would jump on it!.......i2f
So so true, this is why cops do NOT deserve the repect they get. Remember the NFL player stpped by the cops in Texas while his wife's mother was dying??? The police blogs were defending the SOB that stopped him, but in the end he lost his job.....thank you Lord....there is justice in this world......let's just hope it happens again.!!
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This is not my field at all.
Thanks. You clearly know 14 times more about this than I do. But that's not saying much.

My 16 year old son got a speeding ticket recently. I hired defense counsel for a very nominal fee who made it all just go away. Poof. This whole field makes my head hurt.

I had an attorney friend who defended DUIs for a short time and never lost a case in like two years. Always was able to find a technical defect to get his client off. Amazed me. Once some alcohol was being airlifted to a remote village in Alaska that was legally dry, and the authorities busted the guy who took delivery. My buddy got him off. Incredible. But, man, he would work the case to death. Not a cheap defense, that guy.
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The I-Team has learned that the number two official in the Lake County Sheriff's Office, Russell Perdock, has just been reassigned from Enforcement Branch Director to Logistics Section Chief. What this means is that Perdock is no longer in charge of all patrol officers. One of my sources inside the department tells me Perdock's "being taken off the front lines. He's not happy about it. My guess is they're trying to hide Perdock with all these people coming out saying he was drinking and racing his boat."

As we reported last week, several witnesses say they saw Perdock at Konocti Harbor's outdoor bar in the hours before the crash that killed Lynn Thornton of Willows. That conflicts with what Perdock told investigators, that he was home until well past eight o'clock that night. Perdock's power boat ran over the sailboat in which Thornton and several friends were riding.

It's interesting that when we went to the Sheriff's Public Information Officer for confirmation of Perdock's reassignment, the first thing he wanted to know was who were our sources inside the department. Captain Jim Bauman wrote in an e-mail, "I will be happy to answer to (sic) your questions when you tell me who provided you with this information." My answer: "That's not how this works. I don't give up sources." Finally, Bauman confirmed the move and characterized it as "a routine rotation of assignments for sworn command staff". Perdock has not returned the message I left on his voicemail, asking for comment.

abc7news.com I-Team: Boat Crash Update

There is also more talk about dropping charges against Dinius.

Deputy DA John Langan told the judge last week that he may file a motion to dismiss the case at the June 12th hearing if investigators can't wrap up their work. The defense is hoping that would mean Dinius is off the hook. But, Hopkins told me today if they have to file a motion to dismiss the case, "the purpose would be to finish the investigation and refile."
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Yeah, keep the pressure up! Thanks for the update
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If the sailboat was drifting at night without proper lights, they would not only be responsible for the accident, but also stupid.

If they had lost their electrics and could not display lights, use horns, flares, bells and get out of the way.
I live near the lake on which the incident happened. Rather than everyone jump in with ideas, the facts need to be understood first.

There were witnesses on shore who watched the accident happen & verbally commented about what was happening. They could SEE the sailboat. The sails were up. Witnesses have recently stepped forward to identify the motor boater as having been in the nearby bar of a casino despite the motor boater claiming not to have been there. The motor boater was traveling, he said, 40 to 50 mph... then changed his story to half that later. The motor boater was known to remove his exhaust pipes to increase the motor noise level beyond the legal limit knowing full well that his actions would disturb residents around the lake. In other words, the motor boater was at fault and everyone for the most part understands that except for the local DA. Why would the local DA NOT prosecute the motor boater? Perhaps because the motor boater was the number two man in the Sheriff's Office and was friendly with the DA's staff. WHY didn't the DA's Office and the local Sheriff's Office defer the investigation to an outside, neutral agency? WHY indeed. Everyone wants to know.
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So so true, this is why cops do NOT deserve the repect they get. Remember the NFL player stpped by the cops in Texas while his wife's mother was dying??? The police blogs were defending the SOB that stopped him, but in the end he lost his job.....thank you Lord....there is justice in this world......let's just hope it happens again.!!
To try and paint the entire field of law enforcement with your negative comments is pretty absurd. There are jerks in every field. Our prisons are full of dangerous, violent people and they would be among us were it not for the police of our world.

That said, I consider the off duty Sheriff's Office motor boater guilty. Even if alcohol was not involved, and even if he were only going half the speed that he originally stated (40-59 mph), hitting a sailboat moving at 4 mph with its sails UP and with enough daylight left that people on shore were able to see the accident.... was clearly his fault.
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Nice post Bigdreams. We have a couple of cops who have been caught being very naughty and while they are complete 'expletive deleateds', it doesn't mean all are.

I've been following this with interest and are a bit surprised it hasn't been wrapped up yet but catching up with the goings on it certianly appears there is some butt covering going on.
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Absolutely fascinating read. Definite book and/or movie in this.
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Absolutely fascinating read. Definite book and/or movie in this.
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Nice post Bigdreams. We have a couple of cops who have been caught being very naughty and while they are complete 'expletive deleateds', it doesn't mean all are.

I've been following this with interest and are a bit surprised it hasn't been wrapped up yet but catching up with the goings on it certianly appears there is some butt covering going on.
Thanks for the compliment.

One of the lessons learned from the collision between the motor boater and the sailboater was that liability insurance, even for small sailboats, is a good idea. In CA, boaters are not required to have taken a safe boating course even though all drivers of vehicles on CA roads are required to have some driving training. The result is at least half the boaters on the water are operating on common sense alone.

The owner of the sailboat, as I recall, wasn't even on the boat and was about 200 miles away at his home. Yet, his homeowner insurance had to pay out its maximum coverage ($300,000) to the family of the person who was killed on board the boat. There were two payouts of insurance, both on the homeowner policy as I recall, for a total of $600,000.

A liability policy for our small 18 foot sailboat via BoatUS is less than $100 a year. Other inexpensive insurance exists, too, from other companies.
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... at least half the boaters on the water are operating on common sense alone...
And sense, of any degree and type, isn't all that common.
Think how bright the average guy is (or is'nt), and remember that fully half of all people are even less intelligent than he.
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Gord,

Not sure if you are trying to illustrate your point with that post, but a metal picture of a bell curve tells me that "half of all people..." can't be right.

I have been following this travesty and with my tongue firmly planted in my cheek,

Can't someone call in the A-Team?!
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