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Old 06-12-2015, 11:52   #1
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There was a collision the 25th of May 2015 between a motor yacht and a sailing yacht near St Barthelemy. The French investigation report is here: http://www.bea-mer.developpement-dur...-2015_Site.pdf
The English text begins in page 23.

It appears that the captain on the motor yacht was not keeping an effective watch. The owner on the sailing yacht saw the motor yacht 6 minutes before the collision. Being the stand-on vessel, he maintained his course and speed until the other yacht was close. Then, he attempted a last-minute manoeuvre but could not avoid the collision.

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There was a collision the 25th of May 2015 between a motor yacht and a sailing yacht near St Barthelemy. The French investigation report is here: http://www.bea-mer.developpement-dur...-2015_Site.pdf
The English text begins in page 23.

It appears that the captain on the motor yacht was not keeping an effective watch. The owner on the sailing yacht saw the motor yacht 6 minutes before the collision. Being the stand-on vessel, he maintained his course and speed until the other yacht was close. Then, he attempted a last-minute manoeuvre but could not avoid the collision.

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That is a very sad story. But makes for very interesting reading. It really takes you back to basics
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I got hit, while anchored, on Nov. 20th. These stories scare me!
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That is a very sad story. But makes for very interesting reading. It really takes you back to basics
Yes, this is the reason why I posted the link.

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One thing caught my attention is the fact the sailboat saw the powerboat around 2 miles and not tried to attract the other captain attention... at 19 knots, 2 miles run fast and maybe tough powerboat gonna pass him or altered course... Sad history.. keep safe distance with motoryach, specially, fast ones...
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Not to diminish in any way the fault of the power boat skipper, but the sailor screwed the pooch. He failed to perceive the moment when he needed to stop standing on and start avoiding - fundamental to collision avoidance.

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No recommendations on the human factors I find a bit odd. Especially given it was human factors that failed.
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Not to diminish in any way the fault of the power boat skipper, but the sailor screwed the pooch. He failed to perceive the moment when he needed to stop standing on and start avoiding - fundamental to collision avoidance.
....and he'll be paying the price the rest of his life, having lost his good lady and his good boat due to a judgment that wasn't good enough. Very, very sad.

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I got hit, while anchored, on Nov. 20th. These stories scare me!
Everything ok? Where did this happen?
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Everything ok? Where did this happen?
No injuries, T boned my starboard side, took out my lifelines, two stanchions and some bow pulpit damage, gunwale gelcoat big knicks. Horseshoe Cove (Bay), north tower of the GG Bridge. I've anchored in there for over 15 years. The bozo apologized profusely, and said: "I was getting my boat ready to sail."

NOT!

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No injuries, T boned my starboard side, took out my lifelines, two stanchions and some bow pulpit damage, gunwale gelcoat big knicks. Horseshoe Cove (Bay), north tower of the GG Bridge. I've anchored in there for over 15 years. The bozo apologized profusely, and said: "I was getting my boat ready to sail."

NOT!

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Thanks again, much appreciated. Much luckier than the sailboat in the report.
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There is no record of the French examining the power boat captain's cell phone for evidence of texting at the time of the accident-they missed a good bet.
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Re: Accident report

From the perspective of the sailing skipper this is how I could see it playng in his head

6 min That's a big boat we are going to get bounced

5 min He is going to get close ,Why do they always do that

4 min I know he has a licence but he is still an A_ _ hole

3 min I wonder when he is going to turn

2 min surely you are going to turn

1 min hold on I am turning

30 sec S_ _t

IMO minutes 5&4 are the key and that is because of how often we are buzzed by our power driven brothers . I am not looking to turn this into that subject but it is a fact of life for sailors,which may lead to complacency.
If sailors changed course every time this scenario shows up we would not get we are going.
I sold a sail boat to life long power boater once and he could not understand why sailors hated being buzzed ,the next year he understood .
I believe that apportioning any blame on the sail boat is wrong .He had a right to believe that a vessel as large as the power boat, would be fully and competently crewed by professionals with all necessary equipment installed and working. None of which is the case
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From the perspective of the sailing skipper this is how I could see it playng in his head

6 min That's a big boat we are going to get bounced

5 min He is going to get close ,Why do they always do that

4 min I know he has a licence but he is still an A_ _ hole

3 min I wonder when he is going to turn

2 min surely you are going to turn

1 min hold on I am turning

30 sec S_ _t

IMO minutes 5&4 are the key and that is because of how often we are buzzed by our power driven brothers . I am not looking to turn this into that subject but it is a fact of life for sailors,which may lead to complacency.
If sailors changed course every time this scenario shows up we would not get we are going.
I sold a sail boat to life long power boater once and he could not understand why sailors hated being buzzed ,the next year he understood .
I believe that apportioning any blame on the sail boat is wrong .He had a right to believe that a vessel as large as the power boat, would be fully and competently crewed by professionals with all necessary equipment installed and working. None of which is the case
It's not about 'blame' it's about learning from mistakes. And your last paragraph indicates you don't fully understand the intent of the colregs.
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