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Old 09-12-2010, 06:25   #1
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88' Schooner Sinks Off Massachusetts . . .

Apparently it took more than the eponymous Raw Faith.

Maine-built ship Raw Faith sinks off Cape Cod coast - Bangor Daily News
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Old 09-12-2010, 06:33   #2
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Sailing vessel Raw Faith sinks | Coast Guard News

Sad end to a sad tale of a sad ship ill-prepared for sea


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Old 09-12-2010, 06:40   #3
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Ship didn't appear to be in tooooo much distress. Hmmm !!
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Old 09-12-2010, 07:04   #4
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Ship didn't appear to be in tooooo much distress. Hmmm !!
Agree..
As always, its hard to second guess these situations not being a participant.
Its a sad deal.
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Old 09-12-2010, 07:57   #5
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English Galleon Sinks off Cape Cod Today

A crew of two on a 88ft galleon. Sounds a little short handed to me.

Abandoned sailboat sinks off Cape Cod
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The owner had been rescued by the USCG three times since 2004 on that thing. There's much about him and that contraption scattered about the web, especially on the WBF.
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A crew of two on a 88 188ft galleon. Sounds a little short handed to me.
RawFaith is a 118 foot long, three-masted, 300 ton tall ship (without cannons). RawFaith had been the target of criticism for her apparent lack of seaworthiness. On Thanksgiving Day 2004, she was rescued by the United States Coast Guard about 80 miles off the Maine coast after the rudder mechanism failed and the top of the foremast snapped off. She was towed to Rockland, Maine, to undergo repairs.
In another incident on May 9, 2006, all three masts snapped during another storm off the coast of Maine. One of the crew was struck in the head by a piece of the falling mast, but not seriously injured. RawFaith was rescued by the Coast Guard cutter Seneca about 50 miles off Mt. Desert Rock and was again towed to Rockland for repairs.
RawFaith was bound for Bermuda, having left Salem, Mass., on Dec. 4, and was "probably undermanned".

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Much more ➥ Maine-built ship Raw Faith sinks off Cape Cod coast - Bangor Daily News

And more ➥ RawFaith founders, sinks offshore - Lynda Clancy - Rockland - Camden - Knox - The Herald Gazette
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We're going to be reading similar articles about that guy who built the steel boat in his backyard (if it survives a minute after launch).
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It is really sad that he lost his dream. But my sympathy is a bit lessened by the fact that (at least if the article is accurate) he was extremely ill-prepared for this journey, and endangered many lives in the process. Look at the effort put forth by the Coast Guard. I can only imagine the monetary expenditure. The Captain had a beautifully altruistic dream but his vision and ability to carry it out was obviously askew.
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Imagine jumping from a perfectly good helicopter into the open ocean - big waves, cold water, and 175nm from land... Rescue crews live for those moments, but the risks are real.

At the risk of sounding sanctimonious, this incident reminds us that we need to take reasonable precautions so we don't unnecessarily endanger the lives of others.
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RawFaith is a 118 foot long, three-masted, 300 ton tall ship (without cannons). RawFaith had been the target of criticism for her apparent lack of seaworthiness. On Thanksgiving Day 2004, she was rescued by the United States Coast Guard about 80 miles off the Maine coast after the rudder mechanism failed and the top of the foremast snapped off. She was towed to Rockland, Maine, to undergo repairs.
In another incident on May 9, 2006, all three masts snapped during another storm off the coast of Maine. One of the crew was struck in the head by a piece of the falling mast, but not seriously injured. RawFaith was rescued by the Coast Guard cutter Seneca about 50 miles off Mt. Desert Rock and was again towed to Rockland for repairs.
RawFaith was bound for Bermuda, having left Salem, Mass., on Dec. 4, and was "probably undermanned".

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Much more ➥ Maine-built ship Raw Faith sinks off Cape Cod coast - Bangor Daily News

And more ➥ RawFaith founders, sinks offshore - Lynda Clancy - Rockland - Camden - Knox - The Herald Gazette
In different parts of various reports (and even Raw Faith's own website), the vessel's LOA is given alternately as 88' and 118'. I assume it has to do with including or not including the bowsprit (convention is not to include it - otherwise, my boat is 40' insead of 37').
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It seems the fellow had a wonderful idea but not the sense to know he needed advice to accomplish it. It's telling that the CG suggests a different person might not have taken that boat into the NA in winter.

Sometimes we hear of people who succeeded at something despite everyone telling them they couldn't but I don't think that means shear determination can accomplish what wisdom suggests we don't try. Taking a boat that isn't sea worthy into dangerous waters is not something that raw faith should be applied to.
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I remember a professor in college that told me (in a quite serious and helpful tone):

"Remember, most experiments fail."
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I have been following this story for a looooog time
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I am so glad that thing didn't make it to Bermuda, imaging that trying to get through Town Cut in St. Georges.
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