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Old 05-12-2015, 19:52   #76
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Re: 57 foot too big?

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And then it don't matter How Frickin Good you are... take Alfa cat for example..
Remember.. a lot on here maybe only do 500-1000miles/yr and coastal at that..
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Sheesh, Boatie, I'd guess that damn few of the respondents do that many miles. Consider how many don't even own a boat!

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Old 06-12-2015, 00:27   #77
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Re: 57 foot too big?

I bought a 54' HR and as said above, all boats feel small at sea so I'm happy to have the extra safety and speed of a bigger boat. In marinas however handling can be difficult because most marinas seem to have been designed for shorter boats. I would not have bought the boat if I had not been able to install a stern thruster. (it had a bow thruster). The old hands poo poo the idea of thrusters etc for boat handling but for someone without years of experience it can be a big help in tight spaces. Draft is also a matter to consider and a deep keel does restrict options somewhat so it depends where one plans to go.
The costs and maintenance on a boat seem to go up exponentially with size so that is a personal factor that has to be considered. The upgrade costs of a big old boat can be quite scary.
Physical strength for operating the boat is less of a problem than it used to be and a few electric winches can make life easier which is one reason why boats are getting longer every year.
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Old 06-12-2015, 15:33   #78
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Re: 57 foot too big?

Do it

On a large boat, use only brain and intuition and pre-emption.
No strength will be of help to you. Simply so!


Forget stupid (!) Genoa, code0 etc.
Go straight for twin jibs as foresails, 3 electric winches, bow thrust.

A self-tacking jib is good!

Have a dinghy with >15HP which your wife can use to help you in harbours

Check eqt. Well, rigging engines pumps and systems

Any change will cost 2,5X than on a 40'

..and you have many more items to look after

I bought an ocean racer, and feel so comfortable :-) well alone, or with any female guest. Hooked sails.
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Old 06-12-2015, 16:02   #79
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Re: 57 foot too big?

Quandary, I just hate hearing bow/stern thrusters esp when in a nice quiet anchorage.
BUT, its my opinion that THE most experienced skipper would need at least two crew in tenders when trying to dock you Rassy in even light cross winds.
It's really good to hear that you had the temerity/experience to have fitted a complementing stern thruster.
Reading your post was a joy.
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Quandary, I just hate hearing bow/stern thrusters esp when in a nice quiet anchorage.
My god...... It's an Anchorage, not a Library!
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Re: 57 foot too big?

Nzmal,

go for it, 57 aint that big and if you can afford it then you will kick yourself later if you are in a smaller boat. I bought my first boat this year and looked at several boats from 60ft down to 40 and finally settled on a 52 ft alloy boat and went straight out and sailed her 5000 miles. It was a bit of a steep learning curve but you will manage. Get to know her with someone who has experience to guide you properly. Make sure you are well prepared for any offshore trip that you do, and expect things to go wrong, they assuredly will, Imagine the worst scenario and have plan for what you will do in that situation, if you can identify shortcomings in your plan then you are not well enough prepared. Learn how to heave to so that you can get rest, always give yourself plenty of searoom unless you know exactly what the weather is going to do. Sign up to Attainable Adventure Cruising and milk the knowledge on that site. Be well experienced in how your boat handles in confined spaces under power and stay away from congested marinas if it is windy and you are not adept at identifying what manoeuvers you need to make and are well sure of how she will handle. Get out there and enjoy it.
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