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Old 04-12-2015, 19:55   #61
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Re: 57 foot too big?

Nice exit Nzmal.......don't let some of the doubters distract you from using this forum as a resource or sounding board

Good luck in your search!
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It is easy unless something goes wrong then it can quickly get difficult.
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Do it.
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Buy the SMALLEST boat you can live with!! Bigger is not better, unless money is no object and you want to be reliant on crew.
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It is easy unless something goes wrong then it can quickly get difficult.
And then it don't matter How Frickin Good you are... take Alfa cat for example..
Remember.. a lot on here maybe only do 500-1000miles/yr and coastal at that..
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Old 05-12-2015, 15:43   #66
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And then it don't matter How Frickin Good you are... take Alfa cat for example..
Remember.. a lot on here maybe only do 500-1000miles/yr and coastal at that..
Sheesh, Boatie, I'd guess that damn few of the respondents do that many miles. Consider how many don't even own a boat!

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I've done maybe 100 in the last year... doesn't make me a bad person....
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I've done maybe 100 in the last year... doesn't make me a bad person....
Oh yes it does. Bad person.
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Buy the SMALLEST boat you can live with!! Bigger is not better, unless money is no object and you want to be reliant on crew.
That is actually good advice.
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My badness has nothing to do with miles sailed....

A big boat is not necessarily an advantage in 'high latitude ' sailing. It will make life harder than it needs to be in Chilean Patagonia frinstance...
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Re: 57 foot too big?

Nzmal analysed the postings and said that he would start afresh looking at 40=45 ft. Excellent decision.
Sadly, he assessed that one of us was going to tell him he was totally unsuitable. Real sad!

Having welded many rusted decks etc I sure hope he sticks with plastic...there's a reason why glass boats are much more expensive than iron oxide boats per foot.
Steel bounces off stone better, sure, but Mk1 eyeball and GPS are preventative medicine rather than a great splint.
And you don't need to cruise with a Mig welder or oxy-acetylene bottles.
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Pinguino, I heard in Ushuia to you were a terrible sailor and a very bad man also.
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My badness has nothing to do with miles sailed....

A big boat is not necessarily an advantage in 'high latitude ' sailing. It will make life harder than it needs to be in Chilean Patagonia frinstance...
Agree with that observation. You do not want to be handling a rag larger than 300 sq. feet in raging winds and williwaws. Plus lower to the water, less windage, and down there it can be severe.
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Plus you are denied many of the cosier caletas
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Steel hulls tend to rot from the inside out. Survey all important down in the bilges. Otherwise, steel is great lightening protection, whale protection, and reef crunching. Does transmit sounds. Learn to weld. 9 feet will exclude you from a lot of anchorages. Certainly would not work over here in the US.
I don't agree. It can dissolve from the outside in with a hot harbor.

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Yes thanks everyone but I'm withdrawing from this discussion now.

I have the advice I need and I'm not up for a beating. I'm moving back to looking in the 40-45 foot market.
I accept I'm not much of a sailor in some of your eyes.. but I'm sure some of you were in my space before you bought your first keeler.

I'm not interested in hearing posters tell me I should give it away completely and I feel that's where this thread will end up.

cheers everyone.
No offense but you come on an open forum asking advice. I have a lot of experience with steel and gave you sound advice about steel and contacting a surveyor for real advice, that you never responded to. Perhaps you only want to listen to the cheer leaders.
I am glad you are looking in the 40-45 foot market but again...what ever you find, consult a surveyor if you're new to boats.
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