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Old 06-06-2011, 20:06   #16
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We are in the midst of trial by fire right now! Lol we bought a 26 foot sailboat in feb redid the teak, painted the bottom and generally cleaned her up. We put her into the water last week and are living aboard. We stepped the mast did the rigging and have got the sails up and correctly rigged. We have done it all ourselves and neither have ever sailed before. We love it
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We are in the midst of trial by fire right now! Lol we bought a 26 foot sailboat in feb redid the teak, painted the bottom and generally cleaned her up. We put her into the water last week and are living aboard. We stepped the mast did the rigging and have got the sails up and correctly rigged. We have done it all ourselves and neither have ever sailed before. We love it
Awesome you guys more people need to follow their passion regardless of whether it is on the water or not!!!!!

Have a great day on the boat
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Aloha and welcome aboard!
Good luck and check out the books "Start Sailing Right" and "the One-Minute Guide to the Natical Rules of the Road." Both might save you some grief and learning the rules of the road is very necessary just like when you learned to drive.
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Old 05-07-2011, 22:47   #19
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Tell me what these chart symbols mean without using a reference manual.















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What's the point of that, Jackdale? You appear to be an expert. Was that the point?
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Old 09-07-2011, 04:31   #21
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I can't possibly see why you wouldn't like to go to someone just like jackdale and pay them a bunch of money to teach you!

People learn in different ways. Do what is best for you. I hope the point jackdale was trying to make (which I would agree with) is to make sure that you learn enough to be safe in the area that you are choosing to sail.

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Old 09-07-2011, 07:28   #22
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I can't possibly see why you wouldn't like to go to someone just like jackdale and pay them a bunch of money to teach you!

People learn in different ways. Do what is best for you. I hope the point jackdale was trying to make (which I would agree with) is to make sure that you learn enough to be safe in the area that you are choosing to sail.

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Yes that was my point. Navigation is a significant part of sailing.

There is a certain knowledge base that one should have before venturing out. Part of that is the ability to read charts. You do not need to know all of Chart 1, but there is a set of chart symbols that you should have committed to memory. For example, knowing the symbols for the various depths of rocks, as well as knowing the symbols for kelp as it grows on rocks.

Trying to learn Colregs by reading them is a tough slug. Having someone guide your through the more significant ones and learning some memory aids can facilitate that getting to know them.

As for the actual sailing, gaining from someone else's experience (read mistakes) can save you a bunch of money and frustration.
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I bought Waltzing Matilda for $1,000. I spent about $3,000 restoring her, no sailing experience, no boat experience, dropped her in the Arkansas River and headed downstream with $30 in my pocket and $100 in the bank. Currently in the FL keys, I've been cruising for 20 months now and haven't gone hungry a day. Three countries and five states under my keel.

If I can do it, any one can..... get out there, get wet, get sailing cause you aint getting any younger.
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What's the point of that, Jackdale? You appear to be an expert. Was that the point?
Read his last line... it's pretty clear to me. It was a great way to illustrate a point and perhaps injected some reality into a theoretical debate.
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Unless OP is setting off on a long distance voyage 10 minutes after buying his first boat then IMO he don't really need to know those symbols.

I am sure he has the wit to buy himself a chart of his local area and work out where he should be avoiding (and maybe also ask another local skipper - or better still bribe him with beer for a lap around the locale and some running commentary).

Whilst I have no fundamemtal problem with folks taking proffessional training (and IMO it does have it's place) but at the end of the day messing around in boats is not exactly rocket science.....
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Re: Trial by Fire ?

I don't know what a few of those wavy blobs mean.

You don't need to know everything if you have the brain capacity to research where you are going, situational awareness... and did I say brains?

Channel markers, Cardinal marks and isolated danger marks are important but the rest you can make up as you go along. They change often in different countries anyway. In specific ares you may need to know different stuff, and you will learn it, but does someone sailing Long Sound need to know what the symbol for coral is?

The wavy bit at the top probably means its shallow, or perhaps a Pizzeria opening soon. The one at the bottom wavy is probably the Jet Ski route.

I think Jack takes this stuff far too seriously. Teacher and all. The knowledge comes, so have a look at stuff without beating yourself up about it.

If after you are sailing a while and you want to take a specific exam then study the theory and know the Jet Ski symbols. Otherwise treat them with the distain they probably deserve.



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HBFunk...great story...really appreciated reading that...made my day.
Good voyage to you...
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Go for it!!
Although we had a fair bit of experience on the water rec fishing we had never sailed.
After 2 day course we decided to buy our first sail boat, a 10 mt cat.
With another half day lesson on our boat in Sydney we sailed home to the Eyre Peninsula South Oz, about 1100 nm.
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