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Old 07-09-2010, 19:22   #1
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Sail Question (?)

I am a first time sail boat owner and I would like to find out if anyone could tell me, "why" the Genoa sail I have for my 27' Morgan is so ridgid? I can't really pile it up in my pulpit area prior to getting ready to sail as I was showed to do. The sail is very hard to work with and appears to only be able to be folded up. Any help will be greatly appreciated.
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It's either rigid because it's new and fast, or because it just very heavy sailcloth. Try hanking it to the forestay then flaking it aft with zig-zag folds between each hank. Secure it to the toerail or lifelines with a few gaskets.

Folding it like this is the first step to putting it away, too.
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You may have a rally awesome sail.

Is it clear with "threads" running through it? It could be mylar/kevlar. Designed to hold it's shape extremely well.

If it is Dacron something is weird. It could be brand new or very heavy.

As Daddle points out the sail probably needs to be flaked on the deck.
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No Sir. It is not not clear. White and it has a couple of small spot that I had to pull the lamination off of....? not sure what that is all about, but they were not very large ares.
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If it is delaminating then it sounds like a laminated sail.

It also sounds like a laminated sail that is starting to deteriorate.

At this point I am still not sure what you have so a picture would be nice. Assuming it is laminated you should make sure you are storing it flaked not stuffed in a bag.
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Yes Sir,
As I am new, I will preceive the term "flaked" to mean, something like, "folded up" in a nice neat manner. Yes it is folded and slid inside of a sail bag. I don't believe I could just stuff this one into a bag.
Thank you for your insight. I don't have a picture of it handy, but when I get back home I will see about sending you one.
Thank you again.
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Hi Sailboats rock - Just a tip - My dad is "Sir" - Ha, ha. You are freakin' me out and making me feel old - just kidding. call m Ex or Dan.

You are probably folding the sail well. Generally flaking as taking folds of sail from the (foot) and folding it back on itself. If you try to keep the luff (the end with the connectors) lined up with each fold you will eand up with a flaked sail that is quite long.

You lay this on the deck with the hanks at the forestay end and it helps you hank it on in preparation for hoisting.

Once flaked out flat for storage you fold the ends to the middle and fold the whole thing over on itself - hard to describe. Any way you want to size all the folds so the sail eventually fits in the bag but I am sure you know that.

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Ok Ex
I appreciate your drawing. I got exactly what you mean. That is not the way I have it folded currently but it will be as soon as I get back. What you said makes perfect sense.

Thanks again for your help.
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Nice drawing!!

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