Question regarding licence number

Acoron · 08-03-2007, 19:07

Hi there. I had a quick question regarding the licence number on the side of boats. Im trying to find information on a specific boat via its h.i.n. but I cant seem to find a "finder" on the internet. Lets say I want to buy a boat and that I have the number on the side of this boat. Is there's a web site that allows me to find any information on this boat via its hull number? Thanks

delmarrey · 08-03-2007, 19:12

I don't know about Canada but in the US that info is only for official use only. Privacy Acts.................._/)

Knottygirlz · 08-03-2007, 19:28

Rick has looked information up on line about boats we have seen, but I think he has done it by vessel name. I'll ask him in the morning and he can respond....

The only thing I have ever heard the numbers used for is to report vessels to the OPP for dangerous operation.....I could be wrong, of course...that's why I keep the captain around!

Lori

Acoron · 08-03-2007, 19:33

Thanks. Its true I am a Canadian but the boat I am refering too has a California company as the manufacturer. I was sort of hoping there was a boat finder on the internet but i had'nt considered privacy acts. Thanks for the fast replies.

**Pblais** · 08-03-2007, 20:02

You really can't get much on HIN other than you can look up the manufacturer from the first 3 letters of the HIN. For US state registrations you can't get anything. US state registrations start with the 2 letter state abbreviation. US documented vessels are numeric only.

**GordMay** · 09-03-2007, 02:13

Hull Identification Numbers (HIN)
Manufacturers Identification Code (MIC) Database

**knottybuoyz** · 09-03-2007, 05:29

You can try BoatUS. They have a support bulletin board where you can make inquiries on specific boat brands & models.

BoatUS Club House Messageboards

I've seen services where you can enter a HIN and you get a canned report on recalls/defects on specific makes/models but I don't think it's like CarFax where you get a detailed history of the boat.

**Pblais** · 09-03-2007, 06:04

If a US boat is USCG Documented you can get a title history from the USCG for $25. It will detail the ownership history and show any liens but that is the only information they retain - that you could get. There is no other database that will tell you anything else about an HIN as far as things you might want to know that you could not tell from just seeing it or decoding the builer / model number and date. Contacting the vendor would yield more details than anything else but they don't have a history of the boat.

There is no similar thing like CarFax for boats. This message board is better than Boat US (I'm not just saying it). There really isn't vey much activity there given the large number of members. An owners association may actually be the better choice. On the two boats I have purchased I found a lot of history information through the respective owners association lists.

Benny · 09-03-2007, 10:21

Here's the site I used - they nreport any damage, liens, legal actions etc 8 checks in all by using the HIN for a small fee.

Hope this helps.

Used boat history reports search, boat history HIN check at Boat History Report

Acoron · 09-03-2007, 15:17

I was not expecting all of this great information. Thanks everyone. Im doing my reasherch right now using everyones suggestions. thanks again

Brandywine · 28-06-2008, 22:17

Can anyone report their experience with BoatHistoryReport.com, since the last entry on this thread last year? We found the search service on our own and came to the forum for opinions. The fee is not particularly small, $45 - so is it worth it?

Thanks.

**Pblais** · 29-06-2008, 07:32

I'm am skeptical of information based on HIN number. It may include insurance claims but it won't provide the details very well. You may find out the boat was once stolen but it's not likely.

The point of the service is to provide you information about a boat. You pay $45 and I'm not sure you get what you are looking for. At best you find something that rasies more questions. If they find nothing then you know even less. A boat survey is still the best asurance. They do cost more but I would expect you can look and examine a boat well enough to decide if it is worth getting a survey. With a USCG documented boat you can also get a history for about $35. It would list all claims ever made on the boat and any outstanding issues or encumberances. That is at least solid reliable information.

This is just one more scam of selling of public information over the internet. It's maybe slightly less effective than paying to get a credit score.

**S/V Elusive** · 30-06-2008, 14:39

The CG's report of liens against a boat are not all inclusive. Meaning, a lien against a boat is valid without filing it with the Coast Guard. There is NO requirement that a lien be files with the CG. For the FILER, Filing with the CG does get you recognition that there is a lien against the boat, and the CG will not transfer title until the lien is satisfied.

**Pblais** · 30-06-2008, 15:25

Quote:

There is NO requirement that a lien be files with the CG. For the FILER, Filing with the CG does get you recognition that there is a lien against the boat, and the CG will not transfer title until the lien is satisfied.

Not filing a lien with the USCG means there is no lien. A lien is an encumbrance on the title only. The owner must secure the proper clearance for the lien in order to unencumber the title. You can as a tradesman or marina owner file a complaint with the county sheriff and they can issue a warrant for the owner. It becomes criminal fraud. It also means if the owner transfers the title they still have the crime to face. That is usually what the people I know do to deadbeat boat owners as a first step.

It generally clears itself up in less than a day or two when the sheriff delivers the warrant.

If you don't file the lien with the USCG there is no lien on the title so the title transfers easily leaving the debtor waiting for the tooth fairy. It might happen that you get the report and it's clean then the marina finds out the deadbeat owner is selling the boat so they file it before you can transfer the title. That would be an additional criminal fraud as well on the purchase agreement.

The BoatHistoryReport carries no assurances of authenticity or completeness.

SkiprJohn · 11-07-2008, 13:59

Aloha Acoron,
Welcome aboard! Good your question was answered. Very informative.
Kind regards,
JohnL

08-03-2007, 19:07	#1
Acoron Registered User Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Vancouver B.C. Posts: 5	Question regarding licence number Hi there. I had a quick question regarding the licence number on the side of boats. Im trying to find information on a specific boat via its h.i.n. but I cant seem to find a "finder" on the internet. Lets say I want to buy a boat and that I have the number on the side of this boat. Is there's a web site that allows me to find any information on this boat via its hull number? Thanks

08-03-2007, 20:02	#5
Pblais Moderator Site Helper Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Hayes, VA Boat: Gozzard 36 - Bright Eyes Posts: 4,760 Images: 7	You really can't get much on HIN other than you can look up the manufacturer from the first 3 letters of the HIN. For US state registrations you can't get anything. US state registrations start with the 2 letter state abbreviation. US documented vessels are numeric only. __________________ Paul Blais s/v Bright Eyes Gozzard 36 37 15.7 N 76 28.9 W

09-03-2007, 02:13	#6
GordMay Administrator Site Administrator Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Thunder Bay, Ontario - 48-29N x 89-20W Boat: C.L.O.D. (Cruiser Living On Dirt) Posts: 9,728 Images: 232	Hull Identification Numbers (HIN) Manufacturers Identification Code (MIC) Database __________________ Gord May ~~_/)_~~ (Gord & Maggie - "Southbound") "If you didn't have time/$ to do it right in the first place, when will you get the time/$ to fix it?"

09-03-2007, 05:29	#7
knottybuoyz Moderator Site Helper Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Canada Boat: Sunray Mirage 25' Posts: 1,852 Images: 85	You can try BoatUS. They have a support bulletin board where you can make inquiries on specific boat brands & models. BoatUS Club House Messageboards I've seen services where you can enter a HIN and you get a canned report on recalls/defects on specific makes/models but I don't think it's like CarFax where you get a detailed history of the boat. __________________ Yours Aye! Rick ~^~^~^^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~~^~^~~^~^~^^~~^~^ "Under certain circumstances, profanity provides a relief even denied to prayer." Mark Twain

09-03-2007, 06:04	#8
Pblais Moderator Site Helper Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Hayes, VA Boat: Gozzard 36 - Bright Eyes Posts: 4,760 Images: 7	If a US boat is USCG Documented you can get a title history from the USCG for $25. It will detail the ownership history and show any liens but that is the only information they retain - that you could get. There is no other database that will tell you anything else about an HIN as far as things you might want to know that you could not tell from just seeing it or decoding the builer / model number and date. Contacting the vendor would yield more details than anything else but they don't have a history of the boat. There is no similar thing like CarFax for boats. This message board is better than Boat US (I'm not just saying it). There really isn't vey much activity there given the large number of members. An owners association may actually be the better choice. On the two boats I have purchased I found a lot of history information through the respective owners association lists. __________________ Paul Blais s/v Bright Eyes Gozzard 36 37 15.7 N 76 28.9 W

08-03-2007, 19:12	#2
delmarrey Registered User Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Puget Sound, WA Boat: Choate 40 Posts: 3,549 Images: 115	I don't know about Canada but in the US that info is only for official use only. Privacy Acts.................._/)

08-03-2007, 19:28	#3
Knottygirlz Registered User Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Iroquois, Ontario Boat: Sunray 25' KnottybuoyzII Posts: 162	Rick has looked information up on line about boats we have seen, but I think he has done it by vessel name. I'll ask him in the morning and he can respond.... The only thing I have ever heard the numbers used for is to report vessels to the OPP for dangerous operation.....I could be wrong, of course...that's why I keep the captain around! Lori

08-03-2007, 19:33	#4
Acoron Registered User Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Vancouver B.C. Posts: 5	Thanks. Its true I am a Canadian but the boat I am refering too has a California company as the manufacturer. I was sort of hoping there was a boat finder on the internet but i had'nt considered privacy acts. Thanks for the fast replies.

09-03-2007, 10:21	#9
Benny Registered User Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: St Catharines ON, CAN Boat: Irwin 37 CC ketch 'Ta-Keel-Ah' Posts: 391	Here's the site I used - they nreport any damage, liens, legal actions etc 8 checks in all by using the HIN for a small fee. Hope this helps. Used boat history reports search, boat history HIN check at Boat History Report __________________ Randy Benoit I37CC 'Ta-Keel-Ah'

09-03-2007, 15:17	#10
Acoron Registered User Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Vancouver B.C. Posts: 5	I was not expecting all of this great information. Thanks everyone. Im doing my reasherch right now using everyones suggestions. thanks again

28-06-2008, 22:17	#11
Brandywine Registered User Join Date: May 2007 Location: Napa, CA Boat: Shopping for catamaran Posts: 77	Can anyone report their experience with BoatHistoryReport.com, since the last entry on this thread last year? We found the search service on our own and came to the forum for opinions. The fee is not particularly small, $45 - so is it worth it? Thanks.

29-06-2008, 07:32	#12
Pblais Moderator Site Helper Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Hayes, VA Boat: Gozzard 36 - Bright Eyes Posts: 4,760 Images: 7	I'm am skeptical of information based on HIN number. It may include insurance claims but it won't provide the details very well. You may find out the boat was once stolen but it's not likely. The point of the service is to provide you information about a boat. You pay $45 and I'm not sure you get what you are looking for. At best you find something that rasies more questions. If they find nothing then you know even less. A boat survey is still the best asurance. They do cost more but I would expect you can look and examine a boat well enough to decide if it is worth getting a survey. With a USCG documented boat you can also get a history for about $35. It would list all claims ever made on the boat and any outstanding issues or encumberances. That is at least solid reliable information. This is just one more scam of selling of public information over the internet. It's maybe slightly less effective than paying to get a credit score. __________________ Paul Blais s/v Bright Eyes Gozzard 36 37 15.7 N 76 28.9 W

30-06-2008, 14:39	#13
S/V Elusive Moderator Site Helper Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Ventura Harbor, CA Boat: Endeavour, Ketch, 43 ft., Elusive Posts: 2,276	The CG's report of liens against a boat are not all inclusive. Meaning, a lien against a boat is valid without filing it with the Coast Guard. There is NO requirement that a lien be files with the CG. For the FILER, Filing with the CG does get you recognition that there is a lien against the boat, and the CG will not transfer title until the lien is satisfied. __________________ "The pessimist complains about the wind; the optimist expects it to change; the realist adjusts the sails." - William Arthur Ward Thomas

11-07-2008, 13:59	#15
SkiprJohn Registered User Join Date: May 2006 Location: Kea'au, Big Island, Hawaii Boat: Cascade, Cutter, 42 - "Casual" Posts: 3,922	Aloha Acoron, Welcome aboard! Good your question was answered. Very informative. Kind regards, JohnL

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