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Old 25-04-2015, 19:37   #1
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Newb with a Pearson 40 in St Augustine

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My name is John. I recently acquired a 1980 Pearson 40- Hull #60. She sat for a while, and I'm working on fixing her back up. Don't know what I plan on doing with her for sure, but it'll be fun no matter what!

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Old 25-04-2015, 19:43   #2
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Re: Newb with a Pearson 40 in St Augustine

Greetings and welcome aboard the CF, John.
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Old 26-04-2015, 07:13   #4
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Re: Newb with a Pearson 40 in St Augustine

Hi John and welcome to the forum.

Sounds like you are on a project similar to mine and in a nearby location.

I have a 1984 Pearson 42 in Gainesville (yes Gainesville, landlocked) that I'm almost done fixing up (after five years). If you want hear about all the things I found in the Pearson drop me a line.
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Old 27-04-2015, 17:10   #5
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Absolutely! I"m sure we can trade some horror stories!
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Old 27-04-2015, 19:46   #6
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Hi John and welcome to the forum.

Sounds like you are on a project similar to mine and in a nearby location.

I have a 1984 Pearson 42 in Gainesville (yes Gainesville, landlocked) that I'm almost done fixing up (after five years). If you want hear about all the things I found in the Pearson drop me a line.

Any chance you have the reverse mounted engine?


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Old 27-04-2015, 20:07   #7
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Any chance you have the reverse mounted engine?


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Yes I would say that there is a very good chance that the engine is reverse mounted. In fact, as I think about it, it's pretty much 100% certain.

Uses the Walter V-drive which seems to be a solid piece of equipment but it is just one more thing that could break. Also makes access to some of the drive train a bit of a stretch.

Once I get back in the water I'm going to catch me an octopus and train it to adjust the stuffing box.

So why do you ask? Have bass ackwards engine in your boat?
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Absolutely! I"m sure we can trade some horror stories!
Oh I don't think it would be nice to tell you my horror stories. You just got the boat and I don't want you to get discouraged before you even get started.

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Old 27-04-2015, 20:11   #9
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Hi John and welcome to the forum.

Sounds like you are on a project similar to mine and in a nearby location.

I have a 1984 Pearson 42 in Gainesville (yes Gainesville, landlocked) that I'm almost done fixing up (after five years). If you want hear about all the things I found in the Pearson drop me a line.
I kind of sort of want to know...Maybe. I mean, the practical side of me wants to know!
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I kind of sort of want to know...Maybe. I mean, the practical side of me wants to know!
Well, my opinion after a few years of working on the boat including pulling all the externals off the engine, new motor mounts, etc, like everything on a boat there are pluses and minuses.

Plus
- engine access is very good.
- engine placed so weight is in the center of the boat.
- more compact installation so takes less room from the living space
- shorter prop shaft


Minus
- one more part (the v-drive) to repair, maintain and replace if it breaks
- access to the stuffing box is doable but awkward
- access to the shaft log you have to jack up the engine
- alignment could be a bit tricky (haven't gotten there yet so ask me in a few months)

Probably a few more but these are the ones that jump out at me at the moment.

So do I love it? Well I don't completely hate it. If I had two identical boats, one with a reverse engine/v-drive setup and one standard I would take the standard. But I wouldn't make a v-drive setup a deal breaker (obviously since I went and bought one).
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Yes I would say that there is a very good chance that the engine is reverse mounted. In fact, as I think about it, it's pretty much 100% certain.

Uses the Walter V-drive which seems to be a solid piece of equipment but it is just one more thing that could break. Also makes access to some of the drive train a bit of a stretch.

Once I get back in the water I'm going to catch me an octopus and train it to adjust the stuffing box.

So why do you ask? Have bass ackwards engine in your boat?

No. Mine is mounted under my center cockpit and has a long shaft with a pita carrier/intermediate bearing.


Next time on the hard I plan to cut my shaft down. Going to be tough getting the old one off.

Long been a fan of the 365. Heard about the rear mounted engines on some Pearson models.

Did a good bit of yacht repairs in my youth. Mostly electrical issues on generators.

Always wished I could find a dwarf that wanted to learn the trade. I'm 6'4" and was able to fold up tighter back then.

Having been involved in redesigning obsolete controls and pure R&D, I can imagine how the meeting went when it was decided to put the engine in backwards.

Does it use CV joints? Seems like it would simplify alignment and cut down on vibration?




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Old 27-04-2015, 21:05   #12
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No. Mine is mounted under my center cockpit and has a long shaft with a pita carrier/intermediate bearing.


Next time on the hard I plan to cut my shaft down. Going to be tough getting the old one off.

Long been a fan of the 365. Heard about the rear mounted engines on some Pearson models.

Did a good bit of yacht repairs in my youth. Mostly electrical issues on generators.

Always wished I could find a dwarf that wanted to learn the trade. I'm 6'4" and was able to fold up tighter back then.

Having been involved in redesigning obsolete controls and pure R&D, I can imagine how the meeting went when it was decided to put the engine in backwards.

Does it use CV joints? Seems like it would simplify alignment and cut down on vibration?




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Pearson built two versions of the 42. Center cockpit 422, aft cockpit 424. Same hull and rig, different cockpit, deck and interior.

The 424 I think the engine is mounted a little farther aft. It uses a short drive shaft between the tranny and the v-drive and I do believe that does simplify the alignment.

The 422 is laid out like the Morgan OI41. The engine is forward of the aft cabin and under the cockpit.

The 422 engine, tranny and v-drive are all bolted together like one solid piece, no shaft or CV AND there are six motor mounts: pair on the front of the engine (aft in the boat), a pair on the transmission and a pair on the v-drive.

According to Walter, the v-drive should not have them so were added later by Pearson. The alignment is done with the two pair on the engine/trans and the pair on the drive snugged up later just enough to take the load off. Guess I'll find out soon enough how it goes.
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