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Old 13-07-2017, 23:33   #1
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Hungry at Sea

Just a little reminder folks that we don't have access to the internet out here, so we are unable to view or interact with anyone's posts to our page until we reach the shores of Hawaii!

Alan Jardine (Simons father) is our liaising admin for Facebook to keep friends and loved ones up to date.
We cannot directly report to Facebook (or view Facebook) from the boat!

We bought enough food provisions for approximately 8 weeks at sea. Our expected journey time was approximately 24-30 days from Oak Bay, Vancouver Island to Hilo, Hawaii.
As we are a sailing vessel and almost entirely dependent on wind, we sailed around to Port San Juan (southwest Vancouver Island) to await our weather window to venture out into the Pacific Ocean.
The wind differed from what we received on our 'Predict Wind' app so we were stationed in San Juan for almost two weeks, eating into our supplies (with nowhere to restock as it is an isolated part of the island).

Just standing in an upright position on the boat draws on so much of our energy, the night watches, the storms, the wind changing its mind every half hour (calling for numerous sail changes in a day, without a roller furling, and a ****load of hanks to clip on), the constant rocking and tilting of the boat, starting a fire every time we want a cup of tea or food....these are all factors that come into play which we didn't account for when supplying ourselves with food for the journey. So instead of eating for 2, we have spent the past month eating for 4-6 people!
We're sailing on a 1958 Gaff-rigged cutter, not equipped with the mod cons and stealth of a Beneteau, so this is hard yacka!!!!

We purchased an iridium GO satellite router for our voyage for $1500, which on a plan at $150 a month, promised us free unlimited inbound and outbound texts, email, internet and the ability to send outbound photographs.

We have learned since that we have no internet connection (which our service provider cannot help with), a limit of 30 inbound texts messages (and once that quota is used up, no text messages will be sent to us, a limit which was reached 2 weeks ago), and an email transfer rate of 5kbs per second (11 times slower than dial up internet).

So in summary, even with us over-estimating our journey time and over-catering with the supplies needed to get us to Hawaii comfortably, these were factors in food reduction:

-2 weeks waiting in Port San Juan for weather window with nowhere to resupply
-constantly active + sleepless nights + hanging on for dear life on the end of the bow sprit changing sails during storms at 3am= UNIMAGINABLY LARGE appetites!!!
-several tins on the bottom shelf went rusty which soaked through and contaminated contents
-DOLDRUMS!!! (No wind=extra days)
-no fridge(ice in the cold box melted within a week, therefore fresh fruit and veggies only lasted 2) we stretched the potatoes, pumpkins and purple cabbage to 3 weeks!
-the trail mix and chryo-vacced meat and goodies were the first to be eaten!


We have 20L of water left and 2-3 days to go...so we'll be fine!! Just a bit weakened that's all! See you in Hawaii!xxxx
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Greetings and welcome aboard the CF, Dad.
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Old 14-07-2017, 03:25   #3
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Greetings and welcome aboard the CF, Dad.
Not quite what I had in mind when I posted this, not at all sure if you have viewed his FB or UTube stuff?
I was actually looking for a bit of encouragement for them, novices they may be but they have lots of guts and doing it tough. Not quite the Joshua Sloaum tough but tough never the less.
Ok, all comments are benificial so thanks for that.
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I was actually looking for a bit of encouragement for them, novices they may be but they have lots of guts and doing it tough

Look, it's hard. Very hard.
The first cruise is the eye opener. And this is probably very, very good for them.
If they intend to do more than sell the boat in Hawaii they may well bite the bullet and whack on some solar panels to have a proper freezer to store the most nutrient dense food on earth: red meat.

Yes, a solar panel and furling jib may screw the 'lines' of a 1958 gaff rigger but is the lives, health and enjoyment of the crew more important?

BTW Slocum had it easier. He was a ships captain with vast experience before he set out in a miraculously fine boat.

We cruisers have to do very well to be as comfortable as him.

Also, the post mentioned lighting a fire to cook. Really? Or does he mean a propane stove?
Even the toughest would ditch the fire and install a proper stove/oven.

I eat as well at sea as at home. They should too. ☺️

I think they won't need my advice... On reaching Port they will have drawn the same conclusions ☺️


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I was actually looking for a bit of encouragement for them, novices they may be but they have lots of guts and doing it tough.
Well I encourage them to turn around then.
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BTW Slocum had it easier. He was a ships captain with vast experience before he set out in a miraculously fine boat.
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Also.. Slocum was not a mollycoddled man of the 20th/21st century... he was well accustomed to basic food storage and provisioning. Another advantage was fruit and veg were natural back then.. not chemically produced.. bought fresh and not kept chilled for the supermarkets.
As for his boat.. it was a rebuilt wreck with a good master..
This experience will if nothing else have taught them the need for rationing supplies to calorific needs rather than comfort feeding..
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... And Slocum ate the dead flying fish off his deck.


I am just a monycoddled boy of....


Didn't Slocum have jus a teeny lil Domestic portable fridge/freezer?
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Not quite what I had in mind when I posted this, not at all sure if you have viewed his FB or UTube stuff?
I was actually looking for a bit of encouragement for them, novices they may be but they have lots of guts and doing it tough. Not quite the Joshua Sloaum tough but tough never the less.
Ok, all comments are benificial so thanks for that.
The reason is that Gord welcomes all new posters. It is a courtesy.

And how are we supposed to know where to find "...his FB or UTube stuff...?"

Actually, I found the post to be provocative because I almost could not believe the apparent lack of planning for proper provisioning. Studying the weather for a year ahead of time would have explained what they were going to face. Computer models are available for historical data for that very trip which thousands have made, including storms and lulls. Sooke would have been a better place to wait. So would Neah Bay. Continuously changing headsails on a boat like that would incline me to stick with a smaller jib to avoid frequent jib changes. I sailed our boat from SF to BC last summer. I studied that trip for five years before I took it. While provisioning wasn't an issue for me (we harbor hopped - but that was part of the study plan), weather certainly was. That's why I left in August, not July; big historical weather differences in wind strengths between those two months. Research would most likely have identified the limitations of their internet connectivity with that provider - it's been discussed many times before.

Sorry for the tough love, Dad, and I'm glad they are fine and nearing the end of their voyage. But it sounded like PPP to me.
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... And Slocum ate the dead flying fish off his deck.


I am just a monycoddled boy of....


Didn't Slocum have jus a teeny lil Domestic portable fridge/freezer?
Did they have 12volt domestic systems back in 1890-1904... or just ice boxes like we did in the 60's/70's..
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Did they have 12volt domestic systems back in 1890-1904... or just ice boxes like we did in the 60's/70's..
How would I know, I'm not that old. Cast your mind back.


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But it sounded like PPP to me.
What's your version of PPP usage here? I'm finding LOADS of acronyms via Google
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What's your version of PPP usage here? I'm finding LOADS of acronyms via Google
Likely meant Piss Poor Planning

Ever heard of the 6 P's?

Proper Planning Prevents Piss Poor Performance
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Perfect Parisian Patootie, obviously.
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Likely meant Piss Poor Planning

Ever heard of the 6 P's?

Proper Planning Prevents Piss Poor Performance
That did not even show up in my results list. Thanks for the informant!

I do like the 6 Ps, though. That'll go into my next work pep talk.
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FFTD

****ing fast thread deterioration.

Always a great feeling of welcoming a new poster....

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