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Old 24-06-2014, 08:06   #1
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Hi - I am new to boating and am considering a 24ft motorboat to primarily use on Windermere. I am 50:50 on whether to Moore at a marina, swing Moore or tow - I have done hours of research online and although a marina (c.3.5k p.a) makes most sense the cost seems excessive as we may only use it 5-10 times a year which realistically seems to leave swing mooring & towing.

Towing - seems that it will be the most cost effective route (lower fees, maintenance, insurance etc ) but will take more commitment and planning. Luckily we could store at home (90 mins away) or dry store 15 miles from the lake for 50 per month.

Swing mooring (less than 1k pa) - this quite interesting. Seems to be relatively cheap but I'm struggling with the concept. What are the risks? I have read / hear horror stories about the boats coming loose, being driven into etc....

Appreciate there are a few points here but didn't want to multiple list.

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Old 24-06-2014, 08:36   #2
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Hi Mark and welcome to the forum.

I think you have already figured out the relative costs and benefits pretty well. I have done all three.

Dock. Costs more but sure is convenient. Walk down to the boat, load refreshments, crank up and drive away. Makes it really easy to go out for a short hop if you like and you might end up using the boat a bit more if it is easier to do. There are risks since the boat is afloat. A leak can sink a boat at a dock (actually one of the most common locations for sinking) just as easily as on the water. High winds you can bash against the dock or neighboring boats.

Tow. Keeps the boat at home so safe and easy to keep an eye on it. Plus repairs and maintenance are cheaper since you can tow to a mechanic or easy to DIY at home. Once you get the routine down it's pretty quick and easy. I can have my 20' launched and the trailer parked in less than 5 minutes from arrival at the ramp. Which is another point. Make sure there are ramps where you want to boat. Are they always accessible or can the water get low and keep you out?

Mooring (as it is called in the US. Over there not sure of the name but the boat is attached to a permanent anchoring system.) Boat is afloat like at a dock so similar concerns about leaks. Also need to watch the mooring gear, lines, etc. The part underwater should be inspected at least yearly for corrosion, wear etc. The pendant from the mooring ball to the boat needs to protected from chafe. Have to figure how you get from shore to boat. Does the local marina have a shuttle service? Do you have to bring your own dinghy?
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Hi Mark.. Welcome to CF.
If you have the space at home I'd opt for towing if you've good launch facilities to use..
Plus points are many.. savings on berth/mooring.. no need to antifoul as she'll not be in water all the time.. easy to maintain in the drive/whatever where you have easy access to power, tools etc.. no need to pack up the car with stuff then have to drive back after a couple of hours because you forgot something..
And more importantly you can widen your cruising grounds should you wish further down the line.. how long does it take to hitch up a trailer and you can load up the boat the evening before you leave so its launch/park/GO...
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Thank you both for responding, do you have experience of towing in the uk. The boat I have seen is a Maxum 2400se - from what I have read it seems to be about the largest you can tow without issue and they seem to do okay in the reviews!


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Go with the trailer if you have the room to park it, and a vehicle to tow it with. Costs, working on the boat, peace of mind, etc etc.

You will have some additional insurance and probably licensing costs, but it's well worth it compared to the maintenance and costs of keeping a boat remote from your own location.

And if you need an excuse, a Defender 90 will tow just about anything. I have some experience with this setup.
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Thank you both for responding, do you have experience of towing in the uk. The boat I have seen is a Maxum 2400se - from what I have read it seems to be about the largest you can tow without issue and they seem to do okay in the reviews!


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Sorry can't help you with UK towing issues. I have towed up to a 25' with twin V8 engines with a full size pickup. That was about the max I could handle with that truck.

Certainly having the right tow vehicle will be a big part of this. If you have to buy the truck that will kind of eat up any savings you realize from towing instead of paying for a berth.

Didn't think about the antifoul issue. That's another big plus for towing. And the option for towing to other locations. With a tow you have the whole island available.
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The wonderful thing about having your boat at home is that you can do projects so easily! Otherwise, you have to pack up all your tools, drive to the boat... Also, it means that you can pack up everything once. Pack the cooler, place it in the boat and take off down the road.
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Well I will need a new car, and looking at the uk tow ratings the vw touareg seems to fit the bill!


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So I went to see a maxum 2400 se and it's great. It's in the water so I couldn't get an accurate size - dies anyone know how much width I will need to store it? It's 2.5m wide, will the trailer be wider than the boat?


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If you have the tow vehicle, once you get the routine down it's not bad. The other option (if available in your area) is to put the boat in a slip for the spring/summer and let it sit at home on the trailer in t he winter.... best of both worlds. Dry moorage where they launch for you is great I hear.
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