Hello to all you cruisers and boaters

tcpgas · 11-02-2007, 14:28

Hi to you all,
My name is Trevor and I am new to boating. I recently purchased a Seamaster 23ft boat to do a bit of pleasure cruising and fishing in my latter years. Unfortunately, my boat, Catrina which is moored at Tucton, Christchurch on the River Stour in Southern England was removed from its mooring on or around new years eve, I recovered it some 400yds down the river tied up near a public slipway. The battery and starter motor had been stolen. I had no problem replacing the battery but trying to find a starter motor for a Perkins diesel 4107 has proved very difficult and as yet I still have not found one. I can not find the engine number on the engine and I am told that I must have this to be able to get the right starter for the boat. Can anyone give me any advice on how I should overcome this problem.

Sunspot Baby · 11-02-2007, 15:02

Welcome aboard. Sorry to hear about your theft. I can't offer help, only sympathy but there are some sharp Perkins types on the forum who will probably give you the guidance needed.

George

tcpgas · 11-02-2007, 15:16

Thanks for the sympathy George, I hope you are right about the Perkins experts.

Take care Trevor

ssullivan · 11-02-2007, 19:24

Trevor,

From the manual for the 4-107, the starter motor is described as the following. Maybe a starter motor dealer can use this info to locate a modern version for you?

Make: Lucas
Type: MG45 or 2M113
Max Current: 900Amps
Starter Cable Resistance: .0017 ohms (max)
Number of teeth on pinion: 10

This started is very common over here, and the modern replacement is by Delco-Remy. If you need me to crawl into my engine room and see if I can get a Delco-Remy part number for you, let me know...

SkiprJohn · 11-02-2007, 19:51

Aloha Trevor,

Welcome aboard!! Hope you enjoy the forum. Sorry about your stolen items. Nothing makes a person feel worse than having things stolen that are truly hard to replace.

eBay Motors: NEW STARTER - BOBCAT CLARK HYSTER NEW HOLLAND PERKINS (item 130078834806 end time Feb-17-07 18:31:36 PST)

This starter fits a Perkins 4-108 so it might be compatible with your engine. Maybe some real Perkins experts can let you know. At any rate it isn't near as expensive as some I've seen.
Kind Regards,
JohnL

tcpgas · 12-02-2007, 11:36

Thank you very much for the info, just what I needed to know. You are a scholar and a gentleman.
Trevor Parker

Quote:

Originally Posted by ssullivan

Trevor,

From the manual for the 4-107, the starter motor is described as the following. Maybe a starter motor dealer can use this info to locate a modern version for you?

Make: Lucas
Type: MG45 or 2M113
Max Current: 900Amps
Starter Cable Resistance: .0017 ohms (max)
Number of teeth on pinion: 10

This started is very common over here, and the modern replacement is by Delco-Remy. If you need me to crawl into my engine room and see if I can get a Delco-Remy part number for you, let me know...

tcpgas · 12-02-2007, 11:43

Hi John
I have contacted the seller and have asked the question is it compatable as yet not received a reply.
Thanks for your help
Trevor

Quote:

Originally Posted by SkiprJohn

Aloha Trevor,

Welcome aboard!! Hope you enjoy the forum. Sorry about your stolen items. Nothing makes a person feel worse than having things stolen that are truly hard to replace.

eBay Motors: NEW STARTER - BOBCAT CLARK HYSTER NEW HOLLAND PERKINS (item 130078834806 end time Feb-17-07 18:31:36 PST)

This starter fits a Perkins 4-108 so it might be compatible with your engine. Maybe some real Perkins experts can let you know. At any rate it isn't near as expensive as some I've seen.
Kind Regards,
JohnL

tcpgas · 12-02-2007, 11:45

Hi John
Hi John
I have contacted the seller and have asked the question is it compatable as yet not received a reply.
Thanks for your help
Trevor

SkiprJohn · 12-02-2007, 21:58

Hi Trevor,
The seller may not know but if you could get the model number from them then you could check with a Perkins expert to see if the model number will fit your 4-107. I wouldn't think they would have changed anything about the starter when producing the 4-108. As I undrstood the big difference was with wet sleeve versus dry sleeved cylinders. I could be wrong. By the way, I really loved my old 4-107. Great engine.
Kind Regards,
JohnL

11-02-2007, 14:28	#1
tcpgas Registered User Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 6	Hello to all you cruisers and boaters Hi to you all, My name is Trevor and I am new to boating. I recently purchased a Seamaster 23ft boat to do a bit of pleasure cruising and fishing in my latter years. Unfortunately, my boat, Catrina which is moored at Tucton, Christchurch on the River Stour in Southern England was removed from its mooring on or around new years eve, I recovered it some 400yds down the river tied up near a public slipway. The battery and starter motor had been stolen. I had no problem replacing the battery but trying to find a starter motor for a Perkins diesel 4107 has proved very difficult and as yet I still have not found one. I can not find the engine number on the engine and I am told that I must have this to be able to get the right starter for the boat. Can anyone give me any advice on how I should overcome this problem.

11-02-2007, 15:02	#2
Sunspot Baby Registered User Join Date: May 2003 Location: New Bern, NC Boat: Prout Manta 38' Catamaran - Sunspot Baby Posts: 1,112 Images: 14	Welcome aboard. Sorry to hear about your theft. I can't offer help, only sympathy but there are some sharp Perkins types on the forum who will probably give you the guidance needed. George __________________ She took my address and my name Put my credit to shame Sunspot Baby, sure had a real good time Bob Seger

11-02-2007, 15:16	#3
tcpgas Registered User Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 6	Thanks Thanks for the sympathy George, I hope you are right about the Perkins experts. Take care Trevor

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11-02-2007, 19:24	#4
ssullivan Commercial Vendor Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 4,533 Images: 1	Trevor, From the manual for the 4-107, the starter motor is described as the following. Maybe a starter motor dealer can use this info to locate a modern version for you? Make: Lucas Type: MG45 or 2M113 Max Current: 900Amps Starter Cable Resistance: .0017 ohms (max) Number of teeth on pinion: 10 This started is very common over here, and the modern replacement is by Delco-Remy. If you need me to crawl into my engine room and see if I can get a Delco-Remy part number for you, let me know...

11-02-2007, 19:51	#5
SkiprJohn Registered User Join Date: May 2006 Location: Kea'au, Big Island, Hawaii Boat: Cascade, Cutter, 42 - "Casual" Posts: 3,726	Aloha Trevor, Welcome aboard!! Hope you enjoy the forum. Sorry about your stolen items. Nothing makes a person feel worse than having things stolen that are truly hard to replace. eBay Motors: NEW STARTER - BOBCAT CLARK HYSTER NEW HOLLAND PERKINS (item 130078834806 end time Feb-17-07 18:31:36 PST) This starter fits a Perkins 4-108 so it might be compatible with your engine. Maybe some real Perkins experts can let you know. At any rate it isn't near as expensive as some I've seen. Kind Regards, JohnL

12-02-2007, 11:45	#8
tcpgas Registered User Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 6	Hi John Hi John I have contacted the seller and have asked the question is it compatable as yet not received a reply. Thanks for your help Trevor

12-02-2007, 21:58	#9
SkiprJohn Registered User Join Date: May 2006 Location: Kea'au, Big Island, Hawaii Boat: Cascade, Cutter, 42 - "Casual" Posts: 3,726	Hi Trevor, The seller may not know but if you could get the model number from them then you could check with a Perkins expert to see if the model number will fit your 4-107. I wouldn't think they would have changed anything about the starter when producing the 4-108. As I undrstood the big difference was with wet sleeve versus dry sleeved cylinders. I could be wrong. By the way, I really loved my old 4-107. Great engine. Kind Regards, JohnL