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Old 22-09-2014, 20:57   #61
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...and if you can aim...
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#1 you'd better be able to hide it incredibly well....
Bruce (The Jackal) Willis had that sorted years ago....


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...and if you can aim...
Damn good point, even if in jest.

For close quarters, a flare gun is fine.

For defense against boarders, particularly in the Africa/India quadrant one would need a 7.62x51 to outrange the RPG and 7.62x39 but one would have to be able to hit the target, and also NVG would be imperative. It's also unlikely that one rifle would be sufficient. To mount an effective defense against Somali pirates would require a minimum investment of some US$12,000 in firearms & optics carried aboard. That amount of hardware is awfully hard to hide when coming into port.
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There are two subjects that will start never ending threads here. Everyone is passionate about Guns and Anchors (good rock band name!).

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Your gun is too small, it's the wrong kind and you don't have enough ammunition. Your anchor is too small, it's the wrong kind, and you don't have enough chain.
Love this answer .
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Guns on boats!

It has never occurred to me that this could be a thread of interest.

But then, coming from Australia the only guns we can have are nurf guns.. BUT we can have BIG nurf guns without any license.

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I probably have more guns than most on the forum, but I think the mindset of needing a firearm for protection is one that is mostly an American one,...
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A newbie posting under Meets & Greets about GUNS .. this can only go one directions.

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i think we need to put this subject to bed once and for all.

it is not illegal to carry guns on a boat,as long as you declare them to customs on arrival.

in every one of the many countries i have visited you will find on your inward customs clearance form a section that asks you if you have firearms on board,if the answer is yes it asks you to list them and the amount of ammunition.

then your fire arms will either be sealed onboard,or kept by the customs for safe keeping untill your departure.

this is the same for every country in the world,hassle, yes but illegal ,no.
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Put a gun thread to bed once and for all? Isn't that an oxymoron or something like that?
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Put a gun thread to bed once and for all? Isn't that an oxymoron or something like that?
well at least put to bed some of the mis-information over the legality of guns onboard on the "high seas",and entering a foreign port with guns onboard.
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Atoll,
Let me clarify, you can go almost anywhere as long as the very first thing you do is declare you have a firearm and be prepared to hand it over unloaded of course, and I assume the most logical way to store the ammo would be in a locked ammo can?

You've done this? If so, where?

From this forum I had come to the assumption that I would be better off trying to run narcotics and slaves than show up at a foreign port with a firearm
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From this forum I had come to the assumption that I would be better off trying to run narcotics and slaves than show up at a foreign port with a firearm
Would you document the events if you do this please? Interested minds would like to know ...
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I would presume its do-able else pro marksmen would not be flying all over the place entering competitions.. and they take their rifles with them.
I would presume one would need an approved 'Gun Locker' securely fitted and lockable to keep your arms and ammo locked up in.. not a coupla hooks on a beam that it hangs from..
Also.. I would presume planning would be required involving sending copies of doc's/licence to carry to the next country applying for a Temporary licence to keep it on board after clearing in.. in places this may be acceptable (more likely if a shotgun)... in others.. not..
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i think we need to put this subject to bed once and for all.

it is not illegal to carry guns on a boat,as long as you declare them to customs on arrival.

in every one of the many countries i have visited you will find on your inward customs clearance form a section that asks you if you have firearms on board,if the answer is yes it asks you to list them and the amount of ammunition.

then your fire arms will either be sealed onboard,or kept by the customs for safe keeping untill your departure.

this is the same for every country in the world,hassle, yes but illegal ,no.
Thank you Atoll First hand experience is nice

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From this forum I had come to the assumption that I would be better off trying to run narcotics and slaves than show up at a foreign port with a firearm
It's funny at times how perception equals reality and reality equals myth.

I was thinking about all of this on my drive into work in the morning and I thought of a possible alternative. Now personally if I get the opportunity to travel I believe I would carry on board but aside from that, for those that don't want to carry. A descent alternative could be to carry Wasp Spray. It has a 20 foot range with a steady stream and as long as you're up wind (i.e. you are at anchor and someone is boarding your transom) a blast of wasp spray to the face will take the fight out of anyone no matter what their intentions are. And as far as I can assume I don't believe customs would be suspect of someone having a can or two of wasp spray on board. Just food for thought for those that want a defense with out carrying those black scary metallic items on board.
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Ohh. Alternatives. A tomahawk of course. Good for chopping wood for campfires.

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