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Old 29-09-2014, 04:01   #271
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Re: Guns on a Boat, Yes or No?

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Yet you quote para 4 which states that drugs, porn and some weapons such as automatics are prohibited. Are you saying it's Ok to have 700kg of coke on your boat and 5000 movies of children being molested alongside your machinegun? Because the section you quote puts them all under the same umbrella.
I read it completely differently. Para 3 tells one that one must declare firearms and ammunition but cautions one to consider para 4 which prevents imports of a range of things including automatic weapons.

In a nutshell, don't try to declare your auto weapon under para 3.

Lawyers may read it differently and might other readers .
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I read it completely differently. Para 3 tells one that one must declare firearms and ammunition but cautions one to consider para 4 which prevents imports of a range of things including automatic weapons.

In a nutshell, don't try to declare your auto weapon under para 3.

Lawyers may read it differently and might other readers .
Yep, declare your machinegun along with your "special" kiddy flicks and nose candy, it's bound to keep you out of jail. Some may deal in semantics, I deal in the reality of the country that I call home.
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Yep, declare your machinegun along with your "special" kiddy flicks and nose candy, it's bound to keep you out of jail. Some may deal in semantics, I deal in the reality of the country that I call home.
I think the reality that you are trying to deal with may have become a bit much for you
,sounds like the heat has got to you old boy,judging by your last few posts,that sound disconnected from reality,or are you trolling
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Yep, declare your machinegun along with your "special" kiddy flicks and nose candy, it's bound to keep you out of jail. Some may deal in semantics, I deal in the reality of the country that I call home.
Sorry, I still can't understand where anyone has suggested that one should try to declare or bring in the prohibited items as mentioned in para 4. .

Presumably if one needed them () on the high seas enroute to Vanuatu, one would deep six them before approaching landfall.
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I think the reality that you are trying to deal with may have become a bit much for you
,sounds like the heat has got to you old boy,judging by your last few posts,that sound disconnected from reality,or are you trolling
Not trolling, simply trying to protect people who would visit our shores by correcting serious misinformation being put about by people who appear to have an agenda. I dramatised my comments to highlight the stupidty of quoting para 4 and at the same time saying it's fine to bring your semi and auto guns here, declare them and not expect grief. Unless you believe you could call here with a boat load of heroin, declare it and think customs will look after it whilst you're here and return it to you upon your departure. The same goes for pornography. It is you who posted that section with those paragraphs. Now go back and read them again and try to see what they actually say, not what you wish them to say to fit your erroneous posts.
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Sorry, I still can't understand where anyone has suggested that one should try to declare or bring in the prohibited items as mentioned in para 4. .

Presumably if one needed them () on the high seas enroute to Vanuatu, one would deep six them before approaching landfall.
One of the "prohibited" items is the exact guns that atoll is advocating bringing here.
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Not trolling, simply trying to protect people who would visit our shores by correcting serious misinformation being put about by people who appear to have an agenda. I dramatised my comments to highlight the stupidty of quoting para 4 and at the same time saying it's fine to bring your semi and auto guns here, declare them and not expect grief. Unless you believe you could call here with a boat load of heroin, declare it and think customs will look after it whilst you're here and return it to you upon your departure. The same goes for pornography. It is you who posted that section with those paragraphs. Now go back and read them again and try to see what they actually say, not what you wish them to say to fit your erroneous posts.
yup gone troppo!

and I will thank you not to put words in my mouth

definitely a troll on your part
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Bringing weapons into Australia

Atol is right, I'm wrong (again)

After a chat with Customs about visiting vessels (all visiting vessels are registered elsewhere), which are carrying any designated weapon, prohibited weapons or restricted, all you have to do is declare them as being on board when you contact the port of arrival, being at least 96 hours prior.

Upon the usual inspection, if your weapon and ammo is appropriately stored and can be safeguarded such as in an onboard gun safe, Customs will then 'seal' the locked locker with a seal which is tamper proof. If it is tampered with upon final inspection at your port of leaving you will be prosecuted.

If you are carrying weapons of a particular nature, e.g prohibited weapons, which usually included automatic weapons, they 'May' be seized and as Atol says returned to you at your expense at your port of leaving. This is discretionary on the officers at the time. It all depends on whether they believe they are safe enough to be left on the vessel.

Always declare and you will always NOT be prosecuted. He must have a bit of a sense of humour because he then stipulated that if you declare a kilo of coke, then you will still be prosecuted.

The four weeks notice relates only to the purchase by Australians of restricted items such as weapons for the importing into Australia.

And of course, none of this applies to Australian registered vessels of which the usual state or territory, and federal laws apply even if you are coming from over seas. Though 'declare' and you will avoid prosecution (unless it's a kilo of coke).
if Mr tied in nots has a few moments of lucidity,perhaps he will take a leaf out of Rustic charms book,and trundle on down to the customs for us.

and find out that automatic weapons refers to rifles like the ak47,ar 15,m16 etc
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One of the "prohibited" items is the exact guns that atoll is advocating bringing here.
Thanks for the clarification, could I please trouble you with one more request?
I have just re-read (rather quickly I admit) the past 19 pages and I have still missed where Atoll is advocating importing automatic weapons into your home country; just exactly what post was it?
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Re: Guns on a Boat, Yes or No?

In the absence of clarification as to the actual meaning of the statute, and to what weapons are prohibited in Vanuatu, can we move on from this particular aspect of weaponry on a boat in that area?

No one is actually sure of the law here. My reading of the legal statutes indicates an import licence is required for certain weapons but it is not clear. In that case, and without proper understanding...... let us leave it to those who can actually ascertain the facts and revisit it later.
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moo

Man I lived in the back country. Black bear scat has twigs and berry's in it. Brown bear scat has bells in it and smells like pepper.

Yep, you got it. Did you hear about the Japanese tourist and the bear repellent spray at Glacier National park?
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I dramatised my comments to highlight the stupidty of quoting para 4 and at the same time saying it's fine to bring your semi and auto guns here, declare them and not expect grief.

Do you perhaps think "automatic" firearms and "semi-automatic" firearms are the same thing?

And/or do you think the Vanuatu authorities interpret those to be the same thing? And/or that they treat both the same way?

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Yep, you got it. Did you hear about the Japanese tourist and the bear repellent spray at Glacier National park?
I haven't heard of that one, but I'm going to guess he preemptively sprayed the ground around his camp with the bear spray thinking it would repel any bears. But because it is pepper it actually attracted them and they came to lick the ground where he sprayed it. Am I close?
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It has nothing to do with being for or against guns, however, it is a subject that has been discussed many, many, many times on the forum.

You should be aware though, that firearm possession in some countries could result in harsh penalties. Some Caribbean countries even make it illegal to have any sort of camo clothing, which is so popular in the US.

Really ??? I would love to know which ones since I've lived down here 23 years and never heard of this before. I'll have to pass this post onto Capt. Fatty.. He would have a ball with this!
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I see you circled back to the epi pen / meds thread. Good show. Its kind of like the seven degrees of Kevin Bacon. Bet we can some how link all threads to guns.

We have connected guns and deep fryers. So next in line is the "Vegans Make good Lovers" for food recipes thread. Ok whats next in line?
Deep fried vegans? Not on my boat. Cannibalism and deep fryers? Now I know why we need guns. To guard the deep fryer from cannibalism.
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