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Old 01-04-2011, 17:01   #1
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Good Bluewater Boat?

Hi,
I am planning on some serious sailing..

I have been lurking here for a while, and am not going to touch the sensitive topic of guns....



I am looking at an older used boat...(25 years) it needs some work to get masts up but I think I can get a good deal, and with a little work I could have a great sailboat. She is Not a Cat, but a nice monohull, so it should be steady in storms. Full Keel design. Steel, not ferro. She has a watermaker on board, and seems to have been maintained well.

I look forward to getting your (most able) opinion.

The boat is on an auction site, and I would appreciate if no one here tries to steal her from me..

Here is a link: used boat, bristol condition

She is based in the UK presently, and I did read the posts that anyone can give a bill of sale (even for the ark royal) so I look forward to your advice to insure a safe transaction.

I look forward to hearing your ideas and thoughts as I start my journey.....

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Old 01-04-2011, 17:09   #2
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Re: Good Bluewater Boat?

IMO it all depends if it comes with Harriers on board or not..
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Welcome aboard Ezzy, They only problem with that boat will be the draft.You will never get a nice place to anchor in the Bahamas.
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Old 01-04-2011, 17:15   #4
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IMO it all depends if it comes with Harriers on board or not..
I only have one harrierHarrier (dog) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia, and he is a good sea dog. (pict below) I know he needs a place to run about, but I think the deck should give ample room.
He is a bit of a loaner, and having multiple harriers would not make him happy....

But the boat looks like a steel, eh?

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Welcome aboard Ezzy, They only problem with that boat will be the draft.You will never get a nice place to anchor in the Bahamas.
Is that a real problem? I could anchor outside, and then dink it in, no? I am sure I can have a dink or two that will fit on this boat...

Especially, as I plan on singlehanding..... so I should not be so cramped.

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Old 01-04-2011, 17:25   #6
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Re: Good Bluewater Boat?

Seems a bit young for disposal. What's the minimum bid? Have you got a marina and slip picked out?

Edit: That is one handsome pooch. I think I'd rather have him than the boat.
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Seems a bit young for disposal. What's the minimum bid? Have you got a marina and slip picked out?

Edit: That is one handsome pooch. I think I'd rather have him than the boat.
Thanks.. the harrier is great... Very Active and smart.... (or so they say in wikipedia... )

In seriousness, There is no minimum.... and yea.. in my opinion the situation is tragic... but... I hear that 2M GPB could get you the whole vessel....., as that is what her sister the invincible sold for....HMS Invincible aircraft carrier leaves Portsmouth for Turkish scrapyard | Mail Online



, some are saying that she would make a great platform for security types during the 2012 Olympics...

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Re: Good Bluewater Boat?

I cannot agree with you more the boat is a real ste(a)el and Harrier can run about,yet as Mark1977 said Bahamas will probably a no go zone draft wise...perhaps Falklands?(pun intended)? Although i hear Africa is soon becoming a popular cruising grounds for that kind of boats.
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Re: Good Bluewater Boat?

You will need to focus on this before you make your purchase :

SA/D Ratio which is the sail area/displacement ratio. We also wish to know when you will purchase so as to get in before the price of Dacron hits the roof.

Are you aiming for a sloop or cutter rig set up? I would not recommend a ketch rig as they are difficult to singlehand and taking the lines aft might prove a bit of a headache. With an out of work linesman moonlighting for you though you might have a chance.

Talking about esthetics you may want to think rethink the colorscheme. And personally I don't go for large pilothouses .

Motion Comfort ratio : You might want to test this before purchase .

But truth be told one outstanding advantage that beats all other boats on your list :
It is just perfect for cruising the coast of Somalia. Can one say Na nah nana nah on VHF ???
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You need a bigger deck like this (but showing less than half of it.)

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You will need to focus on this before you make your purchase :

SA/D Ratio which is the sail area/displacement ratio. We also wish to know when you will purchase so as to get in before the price of Dacron hits the roof.

Are you aiming for a sloop or cutter rig set up? I would not recommend a ketch rig as they are difficult to singlehand and taking the lines aft might prove a bit of a headache. With an out of work linesman moonlighting for you though you might have a chance.

Talking about esthetics you may want to think rethink the colorscheme. And personally I don't go for large pilothouses .

Motion Comfort ratio : You might want to test this before purchase .

But truth be told one outstanding advantage that beats all other boats on your list :
It is just perfect for cruising the coast of Somalia. Can one say Na nah nana nah on VHF ???

Thanks for a great reply.. kept me laughing! and yea.. no problem with pirates...
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You need a bigger deck like this (but showing less than half of it.)


I don't want to get to invested in my dreams for the boat, and giving away all my good ideas before I win in... but... do you think a teak deck would be good? or should I just glass and paint....?
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Hmmm, not sure. The deforestation needed would probably have an impact on global weather and wind strengths. I would recommend 10 oz Dacron in this case and definitely advise us before purchase.

Glass and paint: Nooo .Think about reflected heat !!! Global warming !
Thinking about it further though I see no need for non slip decks on this boat. Your best method of propulsion will be imitating Tarzan and swing from cable vines suspended from a "lifeline" at 8 or 9 ft height. Takes care of hanging out the washing too.
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Hey, look...It's "In Stock"!
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Hey, look...It's "In Stock"!
yea... look, but not too much... Please do not take my dream boat away from me.....

I look forward to constructive criticism and information.

BTW. What type of anchor should I get? What will work best for me?

Thanks again.....

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