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Old 19-12-2015, 12:06   #106
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Canada is taking in 25,000 Syrian refugees over the next three months. Probably we could do more, but not a bad effort to start.

As for your comment about Canadians telling poor little Americans what you should do with your borders, well... I guess we're just learning from our American friends who do this so well and so often ;-)



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"poor little Americans"...there you go again Mike. You wear that chip on your shoulder with great pride.
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. . Hard to believe it but it's true that a socialist country like Sweden treats its entrepreneurs a lot better than we do ours
Not a socialist country, rather a Social Democracy.
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The problem with US health care is that less than half pay, The people that pay, pay more than double to cover the non payers. Lots of bums in the U.S. It is very easy to decide to quit working and live a crappy low income life collecting welfare, disability (undeservingly), aid for children, food stamps and the list goes on. It's not gonna get better until more people contribute but politicians are getting votes by pandering to growing demographic of free loaders. Your life expectancy theory means nothing, Just a guess, the difference is probably the fact that our unemployed and on welfare by choice citizens have a lot of time to sit around and get fat.
Would it be safe to assume that you work for a health insurance company?
Perhaps you should consider that if health care were affordable then the "bums and freeloaders" would not be such a burden to you "payers".
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I don't think we should be taking in any Syrian refugees at all. I think they should stay in Syria and clean up their own country.

As for how many Canada lets in, that's Canada's business. My concern is with the totally open US border and all the criminals and terrorists who are flowing across it.

Maybe Canada just needs a few more heads lopped off, throats cut, a little Sharia law to get with the program.
I was unaware the US had a totally open border anywhere. As one who crosses the northern border (in fact, am doing so almost as I type), I can tell you it's far from "totally open." But I infer you're taking your direction from Trump on this issue, so carry on living in fear.

BTW, I only mentioned Canada's commitment to take 25,000 refugees b/c you suggested Canada do so:

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"poor little Americans"...there you go again Mike. You wear that chip on your shoulder with great pride.
I was responding with the same tone as my friend Canibul. Sorry if that wasn't obvious. As for my chip, I can't see it. Please explain to me what chip I have.
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Would it be safe to assume that you work for a health insurance company?
Perhaps you should consider that if health care were affordable then the "bums and freeloaders" would not be such a burden to you "payers".
I would NOT assume he works for an insurance carrier. He is just very conservative.

What about the "1/2 pay" figure? I think there is a lot of truth in that, folks that can pay but know the hospital will cover it if they do not.
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I would NOT assume he works for an insurance carrier. He is just very conservative.

What about the "1/2 pay" figure? I think there is a lot of truth in that, folks that can pay but know the hospital will cover it if they cannot.
I am conservative...I am also liberal, and moderate...

I am quite leery of any statistics being thrown around; but my point is that if health care in this country were not so outrageously expensive many of these "freeloader" problems would not exist. For profit insurance, to me at least, has no place in health care. Just an opinion...
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I was unaware the US had a totally open border anywhere. As one who crosses the northern border (in fact, am doing so almost as I type), I can tell you it's far from "totally open." But I infer you're taking your direction from Trump on this issue, so carry on living in fear.

BTW, I only mentioned Canada's commitment to take 25,000 refugees b/c you suggested Canada do so:





I was responding with the same tone as my friend Canibul. Sorry if that wasn't obvious. As for my chip, I can't see it. Please explain to me what chip I have.
A common thread in many of your comments is condescension toward others...as for your chip, if you could see it, perhaps you would rethink some of your comments. I'm sure you are a nice person...
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A common thread in many of your comments is condescension toward others...as for your chip, if you could see it, perhaps you would rethink some of your comments. I'm sure you are a nice person...

I tend to respond in kind, although I sometimes regret getting pulled down into the mud. I do react to hypocrisy when I see it, and have a hard time with willful ignorance, but I am pretty darn respectful most of the time. Perhaps you can point out all these condescending responses.

BTW, It does seem odd that you feel able to pass this judgement about me given how little you post here.


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I want a Martian Passport. Anyone going that way? Maybe I could just call a number...
Call Ellon Musk... Perhaps an ambassadorship going as well.
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Canada is taking in 25,000 Syrian refugees over the next three months. Probably we could do more, but not a bad effort to start.

As for your comment about Canadians telling poor little Americans what you should do with your borders, well... I guess we're just learning from our American friends who do this so well and so often ;-)



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I wonder what background check the Canadians will be doing on these Syrians? And how soon before they can freely travel into the USA?
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I tend to respond in kind, although I sometimes regret getting pulled down into the mud. I do react to hypocrisy when I see it, and have a hard time with willful ignorance, but I am pretty darn respectful most of the time. Perhaps you can point out all these condescending responses.

BTW, It does seem odd that you feel able to pass this judgement about me given how little you post here.


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I tend to keep my mouth shut, eyes and ears open...are there a required number of posts in order to be relevant?

I won't engage in a long meaningless exchange, but if you don't want to be "pulled down into the mud" why make comments about an entire group of people as "poor little Americans"? It simply makes you sound arrogant.

I'm not passing judgement, simply hoping to help you understand how terrible many Americans feel about how we are perceived by so many of our dear
Canadian friends. In the spirit of our good relations...
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I don't think we should be taking in any Syrian refugees at all. I think they should stay in Syria and clean up their own country.
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My concern is with the totally open US border and all the criminals and terrorists who are flowing across it.
I have friends in Syria who would agree with the 'clean up their own country' sentiment. But since "we" won't leave the region alone but keep getting involved because we want to protect our interests, it's never going to happen.
We're part of the problem, and -at least imho- we should therefor also be part of the solution for the Syrian people who have had to flee.

As to all the criminals and terrorists: I guess each country has enough of those already; it's not like there would be no crime if there weren't any refugees. And not all refugees are criminals or terrorists - meaning they're human beings like the rest of us, which means most are harmless, but some are far from.

The main problem here (but also France, Germany etc.) are the home grown ones. And those include 'regular Dutch folks'. Even our army seems to have a problem keeping their men on our side.

Why does that happen? I think that's the most important question. What is it that makes people hate so much they're willing to kill others for their believes? Regardless if those believes are based on whatever religion or not. I mean, we have people killing people because they are pro-life and feel the need to kill people who aren't ... Tell me how that makes any sense.

There was a protest here in a Dutch town that wanted to house Syrian refugees. A lot of the locals didn't want that, because "they're all murderers and rapists, and we want to protect our wives and daughters". One of the women they wanted to protect disagreed and stood up to say so. So all the men got up and start chanting "she needs a d**k in her" over and over. They wouldn't stop, and in their minds it makes perfect sense to object to refugees to protect their women - but when those same women disagree, they all cheer loudly for her to be raped into seeing it their way. Yeah, just "decent folk" looking out for their families ...

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Then your best course of action is to travel to Syria, Pakistan, join ISIS or the Taliban...you must inform the nearest US Consulate...and the added benefit is that you can have as many wives as you want.
Ummmm.... The Muslim religion allows a man up to four (4) wives, and he must treat them all equally in every respect.

Four houses {or sailboats } could be quite expensive.
Plus birthday presents, and etc.
And FOUR mother's in law!
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I tend to keep my mouth shut, eyes and ears open...are there a required number of posts in order to be relevant?



I won't engage in a long meaningless exchange, but if you don't want to be "pulled down into the mud" why make comments about an entire group of people as "poor little Americans"? It simply makes you sound arrogant.



I'm not passing judgement, simply hoping to help you understand how terrible many Americans feel about how we are perceived by so many of our dear

Canadian friends. In the spirit of our good relations...

I'm a Canadian. I love America. There are things about America (and things about Canada for that matter) that I don't love. Donald Trump is one of them. I hope you vote him into oblivion before he really makes history in the worst possible way.

But if he did get elected? I still love you all, just not him!

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I'm a Canadian. I love America. There are things about America (and things about Canada for that matter) that I don't love. Donald Trump is one of them. I hope you vote him into oblivion before he really makes history in the worst possible way.

But if he did get elected? I still love you all, just not him!

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If Trump gets elected [no way!] I will get a slip in front of the Empress and quietly get old there! And I'm 65 now!

Oh Canada!

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