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Old 22-02-2011, 21:26   #16
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Re: Best Old 30'-35' Cruiser

I've never owned one, but I've always been impressed with Catalina 30's, and there should be many available for $20000, in many states of seaworthiness. It's been 10-15 years since I've been on one, but I believe the headroom you seek is there also. Good luck
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As a coastal/carribbean cruiser, ditto on NeverMonday's Cherubini Hunter recommendation. If you want bluewater capable, then I'd look at an Alberg 30.
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Can find Columbia 10.7 ( 35ft ) 1979 and Hunter 34 between 1981-1985 which would be fine for Florida-Bahamas-Caribbean cruising. Have seen these at $25000 and below.
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A Hunter Cherubini 37 is capable of a Trans-Atlantic... first hand experience... though many may say its a no no...
I felt plenty secure through some heavy weather..
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Re: Best Old 30'-35' Cruiser

But a 37' is outside of the OPs question. Keep up, willya?
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Re: Best Old 30'-35' Cruiser

I think some of the Canadian boats are very good buys. Several on this list would be candidates. Forget the "price ranges" though, they are way out of line and need updating. For example, we had a Niagara 31 and you should be able to find one for around $20K US.

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Re: Best Old 30'-35' Cruiser

In monohulls... I think that the lowest priced blue water boat, and best bang for your buck out there, is the Pearson 365. They have reasonably shallow draft, and a mast height that can get under the 48' bridges on the Gulf Coast ICW. Both of these are important in Florida.

Draft is not an issue in the Eastern Caribbean, but definitely is an issue in the Bahamas and Western Caribbean. Here, the difference in just under 5' draft and over 6' draft is the difference in being able to access a LARGE portion of the Bahamas, a large portion of the Belize barrier reef, entering at San Pedro rather, than much further down the reef, or going up the BEAUTIFUL Rio Dulce at all. With its 6' bar, (@ dead high tide), across the mouth, you need shallower draft than that. (The Rio Dulce in Guatemala, is bar none, the most beautiful and interesting place I have ever cruised to.)

The Pearson 365 can go to all of these places, it is absolutely seaworthy, and remarkably... it has a separate stand up shower. With a cockpit enclosure, they even make a great marina boat!

Your problem will be in your budget... The 365s have a large selection to choose from, and you could probably find a "cherry" out there, but starting at about twice your price range.

With around $20,000 you can either buy a "project", which doesn't save money in the long run, or get a 30'er and be content with the Keys, and Bahamas. IMO...

Good luck in your search, Mark
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But a 37' is outside of the OPs question. Keep up, willya?
Duhhh... sorry mate... was he talking LOA or LWL.... I'm old and easily confused...
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Re: Best Old 30'-35' Cruiser

Did anyone notice that the OP was nearly 3 years ago !!!
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WOW! No kidding. I see now... How does this happen? M
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Re: Best Old 30'-35' Cruiser

I'd love it if you all would keep it resurrected - I'm in the market too. :{
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I'd love it if you all would keep it resurrected - I'm in the market too. :{
I'll give some different advice if you're looking for the same type of boat, 30-35' for $20,000 to sail the Caribbean and maybe further.

There are about 50 different types of boat you could pick and they would all be fine. The type of boat doesn't matter anywhere near how much the condition and equipment of that specific boat matters.

It's like looking for an old used car for $1000. Ask people their opinion and you'll hear "get a Ford", "I got a Chevy truck for $1000 and drove it 10 years, it was great!" "Get a Honda they last forever" and the truth is the model of car doesn't really matter, what makes a difference is when you find one near you at the right price that has decent tires, brakes, runs ok, doesn't leak oil, transmission doesn't slip, and the body isn't too rusted. Then you found the right car for a $1000 and it was the right brand, doesn't matter what type.

Same thing with boat shopping. Don't get all hung up on "I want a xxxxxx because BillyBob down at the West Marine says they're the best old boat and he knows boats". Picking a boat by brand is something people with lots of money looking for fairly new boats do. Spend your energy learning how to tell if a boats rigging is any good or not. Learn all about diesel engines so you know how to tell the condition of one. Figure out what a spongey deck feels like and how to do fiberglass repair. Make sure you know how much a new sail costs as well as radios, plotters, and all those other goodies that you want to end up with in your cruising boat.

Then when you go looking at boats in your area of search in your price range you can determine which of the 10-20 or so boats you look at is the best deal. You won't be able to look at more than that because it costs too much money to keep driving around looking, and remember that nice pictures on the internet don't mean crap, they all look good on the internet.

Everyone undervalues the equipment when they're looking for a boat. It's all about the equipment if you want to go cruising on a budget, because boating equipment is expensive!!! A 40 year old 30-35 foot hull and rig are worth about $5000 if they're in good condition. On a $20,0000 boat you should be able to walk around it adding up the value of each piece of equipment in your head and total about $35,000. Yes, the boat would be worth a whole lot more if it were stripped and sold for parts than it's sum. That's just the way it works, sucks when you're selling.

Once you're out cruising you'll learn to love the boat whether it's got a fin keel or a full keel, and whichever one it has you'll tell everyone "that's the best type of boat" but what will really make you happy is that you got the one with the propane stove, the refrigerator, the diesel with low hours, and the roller furling jib.
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