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25-11-2014, 03:38
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Advice on permits from Maryland to Fl for a Brit.
Hello Fellow Boaters. We are new to this site which looks very interesting and friendly. We are in the UK and have just brought a boat in Maryland which we fly over first week December to collect and start our Adventure. We are taking two months out of UK, to cruise from Maryland to Florida, using the ICW. Very excited indeed. We will then leave the boat in Florida and fly back home until our next vacation. So we need to know what permits we might need to be able to use the boat while travelling down to Florida. We have not paid any sales tax as yet, but looks like we may have to pay when leaving the boat in Florida. Any help and advice greatly appreciated. Can we register the boat in Delaware with no sales tax, which will give us a registration number, then pay sales tax if we decide to leave it in Florida on arrival?
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25-11-2014, 04:11
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Marine Service Provider
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: Working in St Augustine
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Re: Advice on permits from Maryland to Fl for a Brit.
North Carolina might be your best bet. But if she's US built a simple SSR rego wil do. Not completely legal to some extent, but you'll have no issues.
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25-11-2014, 04:19
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Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: London, Ontario
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Re: Advice on permits from Maryland to Fl for a Brit.
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Originally Posted by Boatguy30
North Carolina might be your best bet. But if she's US built a simple SSR rego wil do. Not completely legal to some extent, but you'll have no issues.
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Boatguy...whats a SSR rego?
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25-11-2014, 05:00
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Join Date: Nov 2014
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Re: Advice on permits from Maryland to Fl for a Brit.
We have registered the boat over here in UK and now have a SSR number. We are very new to this. So can we use this number on the boat and good to set off cruising from Maryland. Or do we still need some kind of US permit? I think our main idea will be to leave in Florida for a year may be. Just need to know what legal requirements are to turn key and enjoy the trip down. Yes the Boat is US built. Currently registered in Maryland although registration looks like expired for quite some time now.
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25-11-2014, 05:07
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Marine Service Provider
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: Working in St Augustine
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Re: Advice on permits from Maryland to Fl for a Brit.
You would of course need a new number for the new boat. If you're interested in laying up in the St Augustine area, send me a PM in a few months.
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25-11-2014, 06:10
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Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: South Pacific
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Re: Advice on permits from Maryland to Fl for a Brit.
Probably not the help you are looking for but you might find it interesting nonetheless. When you get to Maryland, be sure to pronounce it correctly. All Brits say, "Mary-Land," (even the BBC) which is dead wrong. Americans pronounce it "Marilund," like "Marylin" with a "D" on the end (and sometimes with no "D').
Also, "Los Angeles" does not rhyme with "cheese."
Have a great trip.
Dhillen
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25-11-2014, 06:26
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Join Date: May 2006
Location: Solomons, MD
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Advice on permits from Maryland to Fl for a Brit.
If your boat is registered in the UK you will be fine on your cruise. If the boat is more than 90 or so days in Florida they may require you to pay a small Florida registration fee. I would start your inquiry here: http://m.myfwc.com/boating/regulations/
"Documented vessels without a state registration in full force and effect must also obtain a Florida registration and display the validation decal on the port side of the vessel when using Florida waters."
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25-11-2014, 06:48
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Registered User
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: Toronto
Boat: CS36Merlin, "La Belle Aurore"
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Re: Advice on permits from Maryland to Fl for a Brit.
If your boat is UK registered (SSR) you will need a cruising permit from Customs and Border Protection when you start your trip from Maryland. This is good for a maximum of one year. It cannot be renewed without leaving the US for 15 days. The only exemption from this is if you are a legal US resident. If you are a legal US resident you can renew it without the boat having to leave for 15 days.
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Toronto in summer, Bahamas in winter.
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25-11-2014, 06:59
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Join Date: Nov 2014
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Re: Advice on permits from Maryland to Fl for a Brit.
We have been advisded to use a Notary in America for $250 and they will obtain the permit for us using a Power of Attorney. But I am not sure we have the time to get papers witnessed over here and posted back in time for a permit to be issued. Or can we just do this ourselves on the day we arrive? Cheers
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25-11-2014, 07:12
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Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: Toronto
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Re: Advice on permits from Maryland to Fl for a Brit.
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Originally Posted by Winebargain
We have been advisded to use a Notary in America for $250 and they will obtain the permit for us using a Power of Attorney. But I am not sure we have the time to get papers witnessed over here and posted back in time for a permit to be issued. Or can we just do this ourselves on the day we arrive? Cheers
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On the day you arrive take your papers to CBP and it'll take a few minutes. Some folks in Canada ship their boats south and get the cruising permit when the get to where the boat is launched. As long as you have your boat papers and passports you'll be fine. It'll be cold in December so make sure you've got your long underwear.
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Toronto in summer, Bahamas in winter.
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26-01-2015, 10:06
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Registered User
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Nicholasville, Kentucky
Boat: 15 foot Canoe
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Re: Advice on permits from Maryland to Fl for a Brit.
Aloha and welcome aboard!
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26-01-2015, 14:54
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Senior Cruiser
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: Between Caribbean and Canada
Boat: Murray 33-Chouette & Pape Steelmaid-44-Safara-both steel cutters
Posts: 8,503
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Re: Advice on permits from Maryland to Fl for a Brit.
Vasso is right. I would only add that you can easily get the cruising permit in Baltimore at the Port of Baltimore office. They are familiar with the process and helpful and will give you the contact numbers you need when cruising.
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27-01-2015, 07:40
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Marine Service Provider
Join Date: Mar 2014
Location: UK and Central America
Boat: Tucker CA41 Steel 40 foot Ketch
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Re: Advice on permits from Maryland to Fl for a Brit.
Will you need to have pre applied for B1/B2 visas as well?
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27-01-2015, 08:08
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Registered User
Join Date: Mar 2013
Posts: 12
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Re: Advice on permits from Maryland to Fl for a Brit.
Many Canadian winter cruisers haul out and leave their foreign registered boat until next season at Westland Marina in Titusville Florida. They should be able to offer you advice regarding a layover.
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27-01-2015, 09:45
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Registered User
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Tampa, FL
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Re: Advice on permits from Maryland to Fl for a Brit.
I'm a bit surprised that you have not had to pay any tax to Maryland. According to my reading of their laws, excise tax is due if you keep the boat in their waters for more than 30 days after the purchase.
If you bring the boat to Florida they will want to see evidence that you have paid sales tax elsewhere, or that you have owned and used the boat elsewhere for 6 months, or they will want you to pay the Florida "use tax." If you pay a sales/use tax elsewhere that is less than what Florida charges then they will want you to make up the difference.
Info on Florida vessel taxes here:
http://dor.myflorida.com/dor/forms/current/gt800005.pdf
And here:
Official Website Florida Department of Highway Safety and Motor Vehicles
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