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24-03-2016, 10:46
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CLOD
Join Date: Jul 2007
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Re: Why Climate Change Won't Matter in 20 Years
guess none of you read the book Sate of Fear by Michael Crichton
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24-03-2016, 11:12
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#2882
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Registered User
Join Date: Oct 2015
Location: Germany
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Re: Why Climate Change Won't Matter in 20 Years
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Originally Posted by jackdale
So it is imaginary crap of which you speak.
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look up what passed British, German and several other parliaments while the soccer world cup was underway.
but beware, raises for themselfs will be the least worrisome stuff you may discover.
using every possible smokescreen is a virtue of politics.
are we trying to get this thread closed again?
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24-03-2016, 11:32
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#2883
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Registered User
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Calgary, AB, Canada
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Re: Why Climate Change Won't Matter in 20 Years
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Originally Posted by Simonsays
look up what passed British, German and several other parliaments while the soccer world cup was underway.
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Do tell.
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24-03-2016, 11:33
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#2884
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Registered User
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Calgary, AB, Canada
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Re: Why Climate Change Won't Matter in 20 Years
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Originally Posted by sailorboy1
guess none of you read the book Sate of Fear by Michael Crichton
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I prefer science to science fiction.
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24-03-2016, 12:14
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#2886
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CLOD
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Re: Why Climate Change Won't Matter in 20 Years
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Originally Posted by jackdale
I prefer science to science fiction.
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You're in the book
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24-03-2016, 13:53
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#2887
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Re: Why Climate Change Won't Matter in 20 Years
And then there's this:
Synthetic microbe lives with less than 500 genes | Science | AAAS
There are microbes that "eat" hydrocarbons and use that to live. Maybe a synthetic bacteria (or even something simpler than bacteria) could be designed to convert CO2 from the atmosphere and water into a fuel. Then perhaps the hydrocarbon fuel cycle would be completed in a way that results in less atmospheric CO2 and less drilling. Nature does this now with trees and plants but the resulting fuel (e.g. wood) is not very "clean". As science figures out how the genome works they will be able to design organisms to do all sorts of previously impossible things.
As the bard once penned, "There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, than are dreamt of in your philosophy."
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24-03-2016, 14:11
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#2888
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Senior Cruiser
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: PORTUGAL
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Re: Why Climate Change Won't Matter in 20 Years
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Originally Posted by transmitterdan
And then there's this:
Synthetic microbe lives with less than 500 genes | Science | AAAS
There are microbes that "eat" hydrocarbons and use that to live. Maybe a synthetic bacteria (or even something simpler than bacteria) could be designed to convert CO2 from the atmosphere and water into a fuel. Then perhaps the hydrocarbon fuel cycle would be completed in a way that results in less atmospheric CO2 and less drilling. Nature does this now with trees and plants but the resulting fuel (e.g. wood) is not very "clean". As science figures out how the genome works they will be able to design organisms to do all sorts of previously impossible things.
As the bard once penned, "There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, than are dreamt of in your philosophy."
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There's a few 'Options' out there.. unfortunately they've been bought out by the Oil & Motor Cartels as its against their interests for this science to advance
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24-03-2016, 14:42
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#2889
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Registered User
Join Date: May 2008
Location: puɐןsuǝǝnb 'ʎɐʞɔɐɯ
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Posts: 4,864
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Re: Why Climate Change Won't Matter in 20 Years
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Originally Posted by transmitterdan
And then there's this:
Synthetic microbe lives with less than 500 genes | Science | AAAS
There are microbes that "eat" hydrocarbons and use that to live. Maybe a synthetic bacteria (or even something simpler than bacteria) could be designed to convert CO2 from the atmosphere and water into a fuel. Then perhaps the hydrocarbon fuel cycle would be completed in a way that results in less atmospheric CO2 and less drilling. Nature does this now with trees and plants but the resulting fuel (e.g. wood) is not very "clean". As science figures out how the genome works they will be able to design organisms to do all sorts of previously impossible things.
As the bard once penned, "There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, than are dreamt of in your philosophy."
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Actually, I like the concept of algae stripping C02 from the atmosphere. It combines the carbon with hydrogen, expelling oxygen as waste in the process. Given the right conditions, algae can store it's energy for millennia as, umm, fossil oil.
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25-03-2016, 17:46
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#2890
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Registered User
Join Date: Apr 2012
Posts: 585
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Re: Why Climate Change Won't Matter in 20 Years
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25-03-2016, 18:06
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#2891
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Registered User
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Calgary, AB, Canada
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Re: Why Climate Change Won't Matter in 20 Years
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Originally Posted by fryewe
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That is what an El Nino does. And when it dissipates later this year ...
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All models indicate that El Niño will weaken, with a transition to ENSO-neutral likely during the late spring or early summer 2016 (Fig. 6). Thereafter, the chance of La Niña conditions increases into the fall. While there is both model and physical support for La Niña following a strong El Niño, considerable uncertainty remains. A transition to ENSO-neutral is likely during late Northern Hemisphere spring or early summer 2016, with close to a 50 percent chance for La Niña conditions to develop by the fall (click CPC/IRI consensus forecast for the chance of each outcome for each 3-month period).
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Climate Prediction Center: ENSO Diagnostic Discussion
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25-03-2016, 18:08
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#2892
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Registered User
Join Date: Sep 2012
Location: Wilbur By The Sea, FL
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Posts: 661
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Re: Why Climate Change Won't Matter in 20 Years
At this point all I remember about the movie "WaterWorld" is Costner drinking his own urine, or was that another movie?
Anyway, the science is settled....
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25-03-2016, 18:29
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#2893
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Senior Cruiser
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: puget sound washington
Boat: 1968 Islander bahama 24 hull 182, 1963 columbia 29 defender. hull # 60
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Re: Why Climate Change Won't Matter in 20 Years
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Originally Posted by jackdale
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That is called weather but the report I read sail a strong LA Nina was likely by mid to late fall.
I will refined that report after dinner is onboard.
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25-03-2016, 18:32
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#2894
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Senior Cruiser
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: puget sound washington
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Re: Why Climate Change Won't Matter in 20 Years
Quote:
Originally Posted by The Garbone
At this point all I remember about the movie "WaterWorld" is Costner drinking his own urine, or was that another movie?
Anyway, the science is settled....
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It as water world and he ran it thru a simple solar still before he drank it.
Also the science is not settled and never will be.
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25-03-2016, 18:46
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#2895
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cruiser
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: Pangaea
Posts: 10,856
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Re: Why Climate Change Won't Matter in 20 Years
I don't know about the rest of you folks, but I'm in the final stages of packing and getting all mechanical supplies ready for the beginning of our cruising season which begins May 10th in Sardinia, Italy.
Just 10'days until cruising Mexico, then.....
Looking forward to leaving gloomy New England (it was a rainy, raw 36 degrees F today), and feeling some of that refreshing global warming.
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