Cruisers Forum
 


Join CruisersForum Today

Closed Thread
 
Thread Tools Rate Thread Display Modes
Old 23-05-2016, 13:23   #5161
Senior Cruiser
 
Kenomac's Avatar

Cruisers Forum Supporter

Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: Somewhere in the Adriatic Sea
Boat: Oyster 53 Cutter
Posts: 8,515
Re: Why Climate Change Won't Matter in 20 Years

Quote:
Originally Posted by jackdale View Post
Let me fix that for you.
Thank you. I'll try to work on that, if you promise to work on your sentence structure and excessive use of links.

Deal?
__________________

__________________
Kenomac is offline  
Old 23-05-2016, 13:47   #5162
Senior Cruiser
 
jackdale's Avatar

Cruisers Forum Supporter

Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Calgary, AB, Canada
Posts: 5,048
Images: 1
Re: Why Climate Change Won't Matter in 20 Years

Quote:
Originally Posted by Kenomac View Post
So, apparently this is how you spoke to your former students. Nuff said.

Are you unable to complete a full sentence?
Quote:
Originally Posted by jackdale

Try presenting some evidence that supports your naive position.
That is a complete sentence.
__________________

__________________
ISPA Yachtmaster Ocean Instructor Evaluator
Sail Canada Advanced Cruising Instructor
IYT Yachtmaster Coastal Instructor
ASA 201, 203,204, 205, 206, 214
As I sail, I praise God, and care not. (Luke Foxe)
jackdale is offline  
Old 23-05-2016, 13:51   #5163
Senior Cruiser
 
jackdale's Avatar

Cruisers Forum Supporter

Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Calgary, AB, Canada
Posts: 5,048
Images: 1
Re: Why Climate Change Won't Matter in 20 Years

Quote:
Originally Posted by Kenomac View Post
Thank you. I'll try to work on that, if you promise to work on your sentence structure and excessive use of links.

Deal?
In junior high I learned to footnote references. I continued to do so through two stints in graduate school. My students to expected to use references and include bibliographies.

Were you not expected to do likewise? I would like to know the sources of your evidence, should you choose to use any.
__________________
ISPA Yachtmaster Ocean Instructor Evaluator
Sail Canada Advanced Cruising Instructor
IYT Yachtmaster Coastal Instructor
ASA 201, 203,204, 205, 206, 214
As I sail, I praise God, and care not. (Luke Foxe)
jackdale is offline  
Old 23-05-2016, 14:05   #5164
Senior Cruiser
 
Kenomac's Avatar

Cruisers Forum Supporter

Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: Somewhere in the Adriatic Sea
Boat: Oyster 53 Cutter
Posts: 8,515
Re: Why Climate Change Won't Matter in 20 Years

Quote:
Originally Posted by jackdale View Post
Were you not expected to do likewise? I would like to know the sources of your evidence, should you choose to use any.
"I yam what I yam,". Popeye the Sailor Man. 1933
__________________
Kenomac is offline  
Old 23-05-2016, 14:15   #5165
Senior Cruiser
 
jackdale's Avatar

Cruisers Forum Supporter

Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Calgary, AB, Canada
Posts: 5,048
Images: 1
Re: Why Climate Change Won't Matter in 20 Years

Quote:
Originally Posted by Kenomac View Post
"I yam what I yam,". Popeye the Sailor Man. 1933
"Here I stand. I cannot do otherwise." Although attributed to Martin Luther, he did not say it.
__________________
ISPA Yachtmaster Ocean Instructor Evaluator
Sail Canada Advanced Cruising Instructor
IYT Yachtmaster Coastal Instructor
ASA 201, 203,204, 205, 206, 214
As I sail, I praise God, and care not. (Luke Foxe)
jackdale is offline  
Old 23-05-2016, 14:56   #5166
Registered User
 
Delfin's Avatar

Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: Anacortes, WA
Boat: 55' Romsdal
Posts: 1,390
Re: Why Climate Change WILL Matter in 20 Years

Quote:
Originally Posted by SailOar View Post
No whining, I am just noting that you do rather a lot of cutting and pasting in lieu of having an argument. No problem for me, but if I want to know what the cartoonist at Skeptical Science has to say on the topic, I just go to his website.
__________________
http://delfin.talkspot.com
When stupidity is a sufficient explanation, there is no need to appeal to another cause.
- Ulmann's Razor
Delfin is offline  
Old 23-05-2016, 15:02   #5167
Registered User
 
Delfin's Avatar

Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: Anacortes, WA
Boat: 55' Romsdal
Posts: 1,390
Re: Why Climate Change Won't Matter in 20 Years

Quote:
Originally Posted by newhaul View Post
I bet this is where they come up with the 97% consensus the 100 volunteer scientists on this site .
Lomborg has demonstrated by using the warmists' own numbers and tools that they are wasting an enormous amount of money accomplishing nothing. Naturally, this makes warmists feel very uncomfortable since even they must understand that in a world of limited resources if you spend a few trillion chasing snipes, you have a few trillion less to, say, find a cure for Alzheimers. Given the incoherence of some of the warmist posts on this thread that should be viewed favorably by many of them.

In any case, Lomborg is a greenie, just like they are. He just thinks that we should spend the money figuring out how to make windmills that actually make economic sense.

__________________
http://delfin.talkspot.com
When stupidity is a sufficient explanation, there is no need to appeal to another cause.
- Ulmann's Razor
Delfin is offline  
Old 23-05-2016, 15:03   #5168
Registered User
 
Delfin's Avatar

Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: Anacortes, WA
Boat: 55' Romsdal
Posts: 1,390
Re: Why Climate Change Won't Matter in 20 Years

Quote:
Originally Posted by jackdale View Post
Evidence is so boring.

Just in case my opinion has been unclear

- AGW is real.

- The costs outweigh any supposed benefits.

- We can do something about AGW.

Need more?

Happy.
Three declarative statements contradicted by the data. That pretty much sums up the warmist argument.
__________________
http://delfin.talkspot.com
When stupidity is a sufficient explanation, there is no need to appeal to another cause.
- Ulmann's Razor
Delfin is offline  
Old 23-05-2016, 15:18   #5169
Registered User

Join Date: Dec 2011
Posts: 129
Re: Why Climate Change Won't Matter in 20 Years


Here is some more critique of Lomborg's previous work (in this case a book he wrote)

Quote:
Reviewing Lomborg's claims are Dr. Peter Gleick, an internationally recognized expert on the state of freshwater resources; Dr. Jerry Mahlman, one of the most highly regarded atmospheric scientists and climate modelers; and top biologists and biodiversity experts Dr.'s Edward O. Wilson, Thomas Lovejoy, Norman Myers, Jeffrey Harvey and Stuart Pimm.

These separately written expert reviews unequivocally demonstrate that on closer inspection, Lomborg's book is seriously flawed and fails to meet basic standards of credible scientific analysis. The authors note how Lomborg consistently misuses, misrepresents or misinterprets data to greatly underestimate rates of species extinction, ignore evidence that billions of people lack access to clean water and sanitation, and minimize the extent and impacts of global warming due to the burning of fossil fuels and other human-caused emissions of heat-trapping gases. Time and again, these experts find that Lomborg's assertions and analyses are marred by flawed logic, inappropriate use of statistics and hidden value judgments. He uncritically and selectively cites literature -- often not peer-reviewed -- that supports his assertions, while ignoring or misinterpreting scientific evidence that does not. His consistently flawed use of scientific data is, in Peter Gleick's words "unexpected and disturbing in a statistician".
It makes total sense why Delfin likes him so much.
__________________
mr_f is offline  
Old 23-05-2016, 15:22   #5170
Senior Cruiser
 
jackdale's Avatar

Cruisers Forum Supporter

Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Calgary, AB, Canada
Posts: 5,048
Images: 1
Re: Why Climate Change Won't Matter in 20 Years

Quote:
Originally Posted by Delfin View Post
Three declarative statements supported by the data. That pretty much sums up the warmist argument.
Fixed.
__________________
ISPA Yachtmaster Ocean Instructor Evaluator
Sail Canada Advanced Cruising Instructor
IYT Yachtmaster Coastal Instructor
ASA 201, 203,204, 205, 206, 214
As I sail, I praise God, and care not. (Luke Foxe)
jackdale is offline  
Old 23-05-2016, 15:22   #5171
Marine Service Provider
 
SV THIRD DAY's Avatar

Cruisers Forum Supporter

Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: La Paz, Mexico
Boat: 1978 Hudson Force 50 Ketch
Posts: 3,653
Re: Why Climate Change Won't Matter in 20 Years

Onward MMGW Cultists...to arms....attack...

Ha ha ha...

These guys are too much to take, fun to watch, but really. They would have made excellent inquisitors at the witch trials.
__________________
Rich Boren Goodbye Morro Bay...Hello La Paz, Mexico and the owner of:
Cruise RO Water High Output Water
Technautic CoolBlue Refrigeration
SV THIRD DAY is offline  
Old 23-05-2016, 15:36   #5172
Moderator
 
weavis's Avatar

Cruisers Forum Supporter

Join Date: Feb 2014
Location: SEVILLE - MALLORCA
Posts: 10,140
Send a message via Skype™ to weavis
Re: Why Climate Change Won't Matter in 20 Years

Quote:
Originally Posted by Kenomac View Post
Im not sure there is a correlation to be made between Christianity, non Christians and the belief in Global Warming, it seems that the GW disorder affects anyone unable to fight the infection with reason, so much so, that while I've continuously tried to steer the conversation back to the OP, several serial posters remain steadfast in their determination to promote their own political agenda.

Now...... That's a sentence.
Well......... hate to burst yer theory but a Christian should not be worried about Global warming and the earths future....

Statistically, that means that most GW persona are not Christians... or at least that is a postulated premise to explore with data.

On the other hand, there is enough postulation going without adding to it...
__________________
- Never test how deep the water is with both feet -
10% of conflicts are due to different opinions. 90% by the tone of voice.
Raise your words, not your voice. It is rain that grows flowers, not thunder.
weavis is online now  
Old 23-05-2016, 15:38   #5173
Marine Service Provider
 
SV THIRD DAY's Avatar

Cruisers Forum Supporter

Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: La Paz, Mexico
Boat: 1978 Hudson Force 50 Ketch
Posts: 3,653
Re: Why Climate Change Won't Matter in 20 Years

Quote:
Originally Posted by weavis View Post
Well......... hate to burst yer theory but a Christian should not be worried about Global warming and the earths future....

Statistically, that means that most GW persona are not Christians... or at least that is a postulated premise to explore with data.

On the other hand, there is enough postulation going without adding to it...
Ah....well...
You may want to talk to the Pope.
Last time I checked he does consider himself a Christian and is a MMGW Believer.
__________________
Rich Boren Goodbye Morro Bay...Hello La Paz, Mexico and the owner of:
Cruise RO Water High Output Water
Technautic CoolBlue Refrigeration
SV THIRD DAY is offline  
Old 23-05-2016, 15:41   #5174
Moderator
 
weavis's Avatar

Cruisers Forum Supporter

Join Date: Feb 2014
Location: SEVILLE - MALLORCA
Posts: 10,140
Send a message via Skype™ to weavis
Re: Why Climate Change Won't Matter in 20 Years

Quote:
Originally Posted by SV THIRD DAY View Post
Ah....well...
You may want to talk to the Pope.
Last time I checked he does consider himself a Christian and is a MMGW Believer.
I will mark him up as the first anomoly...on the other hand, being pope has political leanings....
__________________
- Never test how deep the water is with both feet -
10% of conflicts are due to different opinions. 90% by the tone of voice.
Raise your words, not your voice. It is rain that grows flowers, not thunder.
weavis is online now  
Old 23-05-2016, 15:45   #5175
Senior Cruiser
 
jackdale's Avatar

Cruisers Forum Supporter

Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Calgary, AB, Canada
Posts: 5,048
Images: 1
Re: Why Climate Change Won't Matter in 20 Years

Quote:
Originally Posted by weavis View Post
Well......... hate to burst yer theory but a Christian should not be worried about Global warming and the earths future....

Statistically, that means that most GW persona are not Christians... or at least that is a postulated premise to explore with data.

On the other hand, there is enough postulation going without adding to it...
Tell that to Katherine Hayhoe, an Evangelical climate scientist.

Katharine Hayhoe | Climate Scientist
__________________

__________________
ISPA Yachtmaster Ocean Instructor Evaluator
Sail Canada Advanced Cruising Instructor
IYT Yachtmaster Coastal Instructor
ASA 201, 203,204, 205, 206, 214
As I sail, I praise God, and care not. (Luke Foxe)
jackdale is offline  
Closed Thread

Thread Tools
Display Modes Rate This Thread
Rate This Thread:

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Cruising and the Coming Storm ~ Recession, Depression, Climate Change, Peak Oil jtbsail Off Topic Forum 162 13-10-2015 13:17
Weather Patterns / Climate Change anjou Off Topic Forum 185 19-01-2010 15:08
Climate Change GordMay Off Topic Forum 445 02-09-2008 08:48
Healthiest coral reefs hardest hit by climate change GordMay Off Topic Forum 33 11-05-2007 03:07



Copyright 2002- Social Knowledge, LLC All Rights Reserved.

All times are GMT -7. The time now is 16:21.


Google+
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 1
Copyright ©2000 - 2017, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Social Knowledge Networks
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 1
Copyright ©2000 - 2017, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.

ShowCase vBulletin Plugins by Drive Thru Online, Inc.