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Old 21-05-2016, 18:44   #5071
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I buy my gasoline at a cooperative. I avoid Exxon Mobil for suppressing their own science.
If I would own a car I would buy gasoline only from organic certified oil wells and refineries and only if the human rights record of the country where it is coming from is clear. Not to mention the environmental record. Discrimination and racism should not be an issue too. Ah and before I forget, I would not buy it if gender equality is an issue.

I do not own a car because I boycott all asteroids on a collision course with Earth. One of those bastards caused the Dinosaurs to die out and put a lot of this biostuff underground to become the oil we use today. Let's show them damn asteroids!

Lets assume this is jackdale (no offense intended), who ran out of gasoline in front of an Exxon Mobile fuel station:



Seriousely, are you guys for real ? Usually people buy their gasoline at the fuel station which is the closest at the time the tank runs low.
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Lets assume this is jackdale (no offense intended), who ran out of gasoline in front of an Exxon Mobile fuel station:
jackdale uses foresight.

And drives a fuel efficient vehicle.
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jackdale uses foresight.

And drives a fuel efficient vehicle.
Ok then jackdales better half after passing 3 Exxon Mobile station knowing that he get's really agitated if she puts Mobile in the tank. I do not want to be in your shoes jackdale when you arrive with a cherry-can full of organic juice



(just kidding - no offense intended)
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Their own refinery. Alberta does not import oil from Qatar. Apparently we have a lot of own.
Well at least we got some kind of answer and by your saying we have a lot of our own I would assume it is from the tar sands region .
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That does sound reasonable. Let's see them. It is your assertion that they exist.
Oh come on! Even you would have to admit that there are other data sets and that GISS is by far the most alarmist.

Here ya go. (I've omitted UAH since you seem to have such a problem with Spenser and Christy )
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Here ya go. (I've omitted UAH since you seem to have such a problem with Spenser and Christy )
Why do you make that absurd comment? I have repeatedly said I trust their data.
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When two biodiesel stations opened up in my city some years ago I was all over it as well. But then I was told from the service manager of my local dealership that they were seeing a lot of problems with deteriorating fuel lines, etc. so I decided to avoid. I was always told that the VW TDI diesel could and does handle it, so I guess it's viable so long as your vehicle is set up for it.

I also avoid it on the boat for the same reason. In fact I recently had to replace a fuel tank -- went with fiberglass but unknowingly used a coating that is not compatible with bio. I wouldn't want to take a chance with the engine & genset anyway.

Fwiw, I learned at that time that, in the U.S. anyway, suppliers and distributors can add put to 5% bio to diesel without being required to disclose it on the pump. Since it all seems to funnel through the same pipelines and other means of transport, it is plausible and probably likely that it is also what's at marine fuel docks. Probably not harmful at 5% or less, but a bit worrisome.

How can one determine where the fuel they are purchasing comes from? We don't seem to have any coops or indpt. vendors around where I live, but maybe worth checking around. I have no illusions of it not making any difference for the environment, but I like the idea of not sending money to the sheiks if avoidable.
The easy part for me is I live within 10 miles of 4 gasoline refineries and I purchase my diesel from pettit directly via a card lock station. As far as issues I have never had any problems my diesel tank is stainless steel.
What station do you purchase your gas from and where do you live? I will see if I can find the info for you
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If you are going to participate in an Internet discussion, you had better know what the acronyms are.
Not quite an acronym, more like code words.
Here's mine to you:

"Have a Magical Day".

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I propose a new hypothesis based on the graph is clearly showing that any worldwar is followed by a period of cooling...
Good idea.

On second thought I'll get whacked by mods if I name the enemy.
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Ok then jackdales better half after passing 3 Exxon Mobile station knowing that he get's really agitated if she puts Mobile in the tank. I do not want to be in your shoes jackdale when you arrive with a cherry-can full of organic juice



(just kidding - no offense intended)
or...



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I propose a new hypothesis based on the graph is clearly showing that any worldwar is followed by a period of cooling...
Not that new. It is called "nuclear winter."
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Ok then jackdales better half after passing 3 Exxon Mobile station knowing that he get's really agitated if she puts Mobile in the tank. I do not want to be in your shoes jackdale when you arrive with a cherry-can full of organic juice



(just kidding - no offense intended)
I have lots of other choices as well.
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Not that new. It is called "nuclear winter."
Since ancient times major wars also did one thing the warmists say is needed to control the climate. Eliminate about 2 billion little problems.
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