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17-05-2016, 19:52
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Re: Why Climate Change Won't Matter in 20 Years
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Actually he said WORSE....
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17-05-2016, 19:53
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Re: Why Climate Change Won't Matter in 20 Years
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Originally Posted by SV THIRD DAY
Actually he said WORSE....
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Nope.
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17-05-2016, 19:54
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Re: Why Climate Change Won't Matter in 20 Years
Gore told a German audience in 2008 that “the entire North polarized cap will disappear in five years.”
and....
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17-05-2016, 19:57
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Re: Why Climate Change Won't Matter in 20 Years
In 2007, 2008 and 2009, Gore publicly and very hysterically warned that the North Pole would be “ice-free” by around 2013 because of alleged “man-made global warming.” Citing “climate” experts, the government-funded BBC hyped the mass hysteria, running a now-embarrassing article under the headline: “ Arctic summers ice-free ‘by 2013’.” Other establishment media outlets did the same.
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17-05-2016, 20:00
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Re: Why Climate Change Won't Matter in 20 Years
I could go on and on and on...but then again, why Jack said he doesn't read or respond to my posts anyway...ha ha ha a
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17-05-2016, 20:15
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Re: Why Climate Change Won't Matter in 20 Years
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Quite right, and thank you for correcting the record. What he actually said was that there would be only a 75% change of the entire polar ice cap disappearing by 2013, around 2:30.
Of course, he is still a complete buffoon as all warmists are and completely wrong, but let's not be unfair to him by suggesting that 75% is the same as 100% chance. Big difference.
Sort of.
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17-05-2016, 20:17
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Re: Why Climate Change Won't Matter in 20 Years
If Al Gore is on my side of an argument...
Then I'm on the wrong side.
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17-05-2016, 20:21
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Re: Why Climate Change Won't Matter in 20 Years
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Originally Posted by SV THIRD DAY
Gore told a German audience in 2008 that “the entire North polarized cap will disappear in five years.”
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Well, in AlGore's defense, he may only have been parroting what is published by other warmist loons, so perhaps instead of being accused of being a complete fraud he should only be accused of being a complete dupe, repeating transparent nonsense as fact just like other warmists.
BBC NEWS | Science/Nature | Arctic summers ice-free 'by 2013'
I mean, why treat him with more contempt than we treat other warmists. Just trying to be fair here....
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17-05-2016, 20:28
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Re: Why Climate Change Won't Matter in 20 Years
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Originally Posted by Delfin
Quite right, and thank you for correcting the record. What he actually said was that there would be only a 75% change of the entire polar ice cap disappearing by 2013, around 2:30.
Of course, he is still a complete buffoon as all warmists are and completely wrong, but let's not be unfair to him by suggesting that 75% is the same as 100% chance. Big difference.
Sort of.
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Gore's source was Wieslaw Maslowski from the US Naval Postgraduate School.
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“Given the estimated trend and the volume estimate for October [to] November of 2007 at less than 9,000 km3, one can project that at this rate it would take only nine more years or until 2016 ± 3 years to reach a nearly ice-free Arctic Ocean in summer.”
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The Future of Arctic Sea Ice
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17-05-2016, 20:40
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Re: Why Climate Change Won't Matter in 20 Years
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If that is the case, then the Arctic must be ice free. Thanks for the appeal to authority fallacy. Haven't seen that one for, oh, about three posts or so.
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17-05-2016, 20:55
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Re: Why Climate Change Won't Matter in 20 Years
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If that is the case, then the Arctic must be ice free. Thanks for the appeal to authority fallacy. Haven't seen that one for, oh, about three posts or so.
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2016 +/- 3 = 2013 - 2019 to a nearly ice-free Arctic Ocean in summer.
BTW you may wish to study up on appeals to authority.
Fallacy: Appeal to Authority
You are appealing to ignorance.
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17-05-2016, 21:03
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Re: Why Climate Change Won't Matter in 20 Years
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2016 +/- 3 = 2013 - 2019 to a nearly ice-free Arctic Ocean in summer.
BTW you may wish to study up on appeals to authority.
Fallacy: Appeal to Authority
You are appealing to ignorance.
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Since Al Gore never said anything about 2016+/- 3years, methinks you just making things up again.
And did you not make an appeal to Authority to validate something Al Gore never said? perhaps it was someone else.
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17-05-2016, 21:17
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Re: Why Climate Change Won't Matter in 20 Years
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Since Al Gore never said anything about 2016+/- 3years, methinks you just making things up again.
And did you not make an appeal to Authority to validate something Al Gore never said? perhaps it was someone else.
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Methinks you do not think.
Did you bother to read his Nobel speech?
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Last September 21, as the Northern Hemisphere tilted away from the sun, scientists reported with unprecedented distress that the North Polar ice cap is "falling off a cliff." One study estimated that it could be completely gone during summer in less than 22 years. Another new study, to be presented by U.S. Navy researchers later this week, warns it could happen in as little as 7 years.
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Maslowski was the Navy researcher to whom he was referring.
Appeals to authority are legitimate when the appeal is to a recognized authority like Maslowski.
Current Arctic sea ice levels are at record lows.
Cruise ships are planning transits.
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17-05-2016, 22:44
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Re: Why Climate Change Won't Matter in 20 Years
Jack's higher authority?
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17-05-2016, 23:28
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Re: Why Climate Change Won't Matter in 20 Years
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Jack you forgot the part about the Canadian coast guard ice breaker that was leading the way for it.
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