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Old 24-04-2016, 20:08   #3661
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Re: Why Climate Change Won't Matter in 20 Years

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And why are we picking on poor Christine Stewart? She didn't say anything different than a US Senator, a prominent IPCC official, an Assistant Secretary of State or a number of other warmists have stated during unguarded moments. Anyone who believes that leftists don't see one upside of the AGW scam as the justification for distributionist policies is just an idiot, to coin a phrase.

Present company excepted, of course. Heck, this nonsense even has a name - Climate Justice. Perhaps you've never heard that term, Jack, and that explains your statement of faith? If so, let me help expand your knowledge just a teenie bit: Let me google that for you.

Or not.
Excellent points, and it makes me ask myself why some are so intent on denying this so obviously significant element of the pro-AGW movement. But it's consistent with all the assertions that politics & money are only playing a role on the other side. It's all getting harder & harder to take seriously.
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The minister is stating that the science of CC is a positive means of pursuing other environmental objectives, as well as a socio-political change. Fair characterization of the comments thus far?

[No]

If so, and assuming these statements were actually made, and regardless of whether they are read spliced together or apart, there can be no denying that the intent is to use CC science as a tool "to bring about justice and equality in the world," generally code for wealth redistribution.


No.

Mentioning that there are possible collateral benefits is not the same as saying "we are intending to use climate science to achieve those collateral benefits or social goals". And of course lacking the transcripts we don't know if these original quotes were responses to rhetorical questions from the board like "what if it turns out that AGW isn't a threat?" or "What if the science is phony?"

I wouldn't be making a fuss if the two quotes were being used. They're embarrassing enough. But splicing them like that is clearly a distortion, meant to imply exactly what you're saying.

Which, as far as the Canadian government is concerned, is not true, then or now.
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No, it's kind of shitty to wield it against anyone on account of their political or other views. But our different take on this says it all as far I'm concerned.
So you don't agree that 3rd Day should have just grown a pair and dealt with it, like a grownup, instead of gloating about it here?

Your adding it to your bag o'tricks says enough.
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I wouldn't be making a fuss if the two quotes were being used. They're embarrassing enough. But splicing them like that is clearly a distortion, meant to imply exactly [COLOR=Red]what you're saying.
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And yet that's exactly what pro agw alarmists do( not saying you personally do) to attempt to discredit the deniers
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As a layman, it seems to me the issues on the merits boil down to (a) has our current alleged warming exceeded that which was experienced during the pre-industrial Medieval Warming Period, and (b) is our current trend out of sync with other pre-industrial, intermediate warming/cooling trends since the Little Ice Age and/or MWP.
I'd be much more concerned about that 10 degrees of cooling which was only a blink away speaking in geological time lines. When - not if - that reoccurs I'd be far more concerned with the welfare of the human race then i am about migrating foxes and butterflies.

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I'd be much more concerned about that 10 degrees of cooling which was only a blink away speaking in geological time lines. When - not if - that reoccurs I'd be far more concerned with the welfare of the human race then i am about migrating foxes and butterflies.

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There will be no cooling. Period. Nada, Zilch. That is what the science says. Like it not.

We have f*cked up the natural cycles by dumping trillions of tonnes of greenhouse gas into the atmosphere.

You have no concern for humanity and your descendants.
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And yet that's exactly what pro agw alarmists do( not saying you personally do) to attempt to discredit the deniers
Who? When? How? When?

Be specific. No vague generalities.
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Excellent points, and it makes me ask myself why some are so intent on denying this so obviously significant element of the pro-AGW movement. But it's consistent with all the assertions that politics & money are only playing a role on the other side. It's all getting harder & harder to take seriously.
That sort of alarmist attitude needs verification.

There is hard evidence that politics and money are finding your side.

http://www.amazon.ca/Dark-Money-Hist...s=books&sr=1-1

You, sir, are a pawn.
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Re: Why Climate Change Won't Matter in 20 Years

The other side isn't specific so why should I be turnabout is fair play.
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There will be no cooling. Period. Nada, Zilch. That is what the science says. Like it not.

We have f*cked up the natural cycles by dumping trillions of tonnes of greenhouse gas into the atmosphere.

You have no concern for humanity and your descendants.
So ice ages and interglacial periods are fake now?

Any, if what you say is true (which is dubious going off past record) then humanity and our descendants will truly thank us in coming centuries.

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So ice ages and interglacial periods are fake now?

Any, if what you say is true (which is dubious going off past record) then humanity and our descendants will truly thank us in coming centuries.

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Get frikking serious.
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Get frikking serious.
I am.

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This thread is a joke.

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This thread is a joke.

Starting with the OP.
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