Why Climate Change Won't Matter in 20 Years

[jackdale]

Originally Posted by markpierce

Sorry, Jack. You haven't convinced me. You've overlooked the Black Plague and years without summers. Millions starved or died of disease. Nearly destroying western civilization.

The MWP have have benefited Europe. It saw the collapse of civilizations and societies elsewhere. (see Fagan)

[fryewe]

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the Foresight Institute » Blog Archive » Nanotechnologies to advance solar energy utilization

[fryewe]

OTOH...

Taxpayers Are Footing Bill for Solar Project That Doesn't Work

[SV THIRD DAY]

Solar works great to light and heat your home at night.....

[SV THIRD DAY]

Originally Posted by markpierce

Nearly destroying western civilization.

BINGO....you just summarized the goal of the MMGW Cultists.
Western Civilization is the problem destroying mother Gia....bingo!

[Exile]

Originally Posted by SV THIRD DAY

BINGO....you just summarized the goal of the MMGW Cultists.
Western Civilization is the problem destroying mother Gia....bingo!

The other irony -- if one can call it that -- is that it is only through the technology that Western Civilization has created that we have the "science" that purportedly shows MMGW. Why is all this technology, and the civilization that produced it, so disdained?

[Exile]

Originally Posted by fryewe

OTOH...

Taxpayers Are Footing Bill for Solar Project That Doesn't Work

Not only are taxpayers footing the bill for misplaced govt. support of technologies that don't do much except get politicians re-elected, but they're footing the bill a second time for increased utility bills. I wonder how many even know the reasons why their taxes (and govt. deficits) & utility bills even need to go up! I think subsidizing research into how to make these technologies more energy and thus cost-efficient may be appropriate, but misleading tax & utility payers into accepting add'l costs by misrepresenting and/or exaggerating the benefits of renewables is fraudulent. Despite protests from the ideologues, one of the best examples of this to date are the Calgary wind turbines that officials claim directly "power" the city's commuter train.

[Lake-Effect]

Originally Posted by Exile

Why is all this technology, and the civilization that produced it, so disdained?

Strawman.

the Calgary wind turbines that officials claim directly "power" the city's commuter train.

We really need to do this one again? Ok.

It's a government conspiracy.

[Exile]

Originally Posted by Lake-Effect

Strawman.

We really need to do this one again? Ok.

It's a government conspiracy.

Don't be so naive. It's a way to get politicians re-elected. Think about it. If it was such a great deal for consumers, then why not pitch it straight, i.e. "we would like you to pay more than you would otherwise have to pay in exchange for a cleaner environment and less MMGW." It seems like this is what the Europeans have voted for in the broad EU mandates for reducing CO2 emissions . . . then again, maybe not.

I don't have any problem letting consumers & taxpayers make this choice for a cleaner planet; I only object to people being misled by politicians for personal career advancement or worse.

Or do you prefer not to have the decision left to all those ignorant, Bible-totin, unwashed masses? I thought you were on the side of democracy, protecting the 'lil guy,' not letting big corps. and their political allies subordinate the peoples' will? Convince people of how right you think you are about the science that supports MMGW, and then let them deal with the added costs and other consequences honestly. Shouldn't be all that hard, you only have about 50% of the planet's population left to persuade.

[SV THIRD DAY]

Originally Posted by Exile

The other irony -- if one can call it that -- is that it is only through the technology that Western Civilization has created that we have the "science" that purportedly shows MMGW. Why is all this technology, and the civilization that produced it, so disdained?

That is the great question for our time.
Why does the Left hate what made us great?
Answer: because they don't view Western Civilization as Great....Obama doesn't, nor does the left. They view income inequality as more important than individual freedom and liberty, in essence, they are apposed to everything Capitalism, the Free Market, and Freedom stands for. They tried Communism, Socialism, and those didn't work and solve the problem, so now their movement is the Green Movement, because who can be against saving the planet right? But now think about it...what personal freedom are the Green pushing? Nope, the individual is second to the greater good and society....bingo again.

[jackdale]

The American Dream is alive and well in Sweden

“If you go to our Constitution, which many people hold dear, there are these ideas that form the backbone of the Nordic model: We the people, a more perfect union, promote the general welfare,” Gummi Oddsson, an Icelandic cross-cultural sociologist at Northern Michigan University, tells Tech Insider. “The American Dream is alive and well in the Nordic countries.”

The American Dream is alive and well in Sweden | Business Insider

[SV THIRD DAY]

Originally Posted by jackdale

The American Dream is alive and well in Sweden



The American Dream is alive and well in Sweden | Business Insider

Care to share with us what the tax rates are in Sweeden?
How much a car tax and registration is...ha ha ha...but then again what would a Canadian know about the American Dream....who do you think you are....Ted Cruz


You funny man...

Stick with the MMGW Cult because your view of the American Dream are pretty funny.

[jackdale]

And then



And the Nordic countries build very nice boats, too.

[SV THIRD DAY]

What did I tell you...
The left view income inequality as more important than freedom...Thanks Jackdale for showing to be the iconic leftist. I love you for being so honest for all the world to see.

[jackdale]

Originally Posted by SV THIRD DAY

What did I tell you...
The left view income inequality as more important than freedom...Thanks Jackdale for showing to be the iconic leftist. I love you for being so honest for all the world to see.

Income inequality is associated with a lack of social mobility, less freedom to rise in economis standing.

What exactly are you free to do? Not increase your personal standard of living.