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Old 25-01-2016, 21:55   #2176
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Re: Why Climate Change Won't Matter in 20 Years

And the Arctic freezes http://arctic.atmos.uiuc.edu/cryosph....color.000.png
And the snow falls Rutgers University Climate Lab :: Global Snow Lab
More than the baseline normal. Rutgers University Climate Lab :: Global Snow Lab
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Well my theory is holding up so far :-)

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Is this a new way to Godwin something without mentioning Nazis?

I found the article fairly evenhanded, especially for the way it laid out the obligations of the researchers to be forthcoming and open.

What has that - advocates throwing buns at each other, basically - got to do with the article, which is referring to the people actually doing the research, and the attacks they undergo?

If your victims of choice aren't publishing peer-reviewed work... they're not in this league, they're part of the problem.
Or is it a case of the eyes seeing what the minds want it to. Remember Dr Zwally? His fair-weather peers and past supporters came out guns blazing the moment he was perceived as having stuck a toe over the line.

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Oh no.... That will melt the two feet of record breaking snow that buried and froze Washington DC over the weekend.
American exceptionalism?
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Get your grant approved and I will do regional consult work for a paltry 6k a year( hey gotta maintain my low budget life somehow)
Pah! Easy money. Your first job will be to explain how chilling yo ass at -20C is considerably worse than sucking on a margarita at +30C. It's all about media attention via scare mongering, you see.

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American exceptionalism?
Yes, but only because the storm forced Congress to close down for a couple of days. Now that D.C.'s streets are starting to get cleared, we'll be returning to mediocrity in short order now.
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You see, the poles are actually getting colder. Cold air is dense and heavy. It settles to the surface, creating an area of low pressure in the atmosphere above. Warm air, on the other hand, expands and rises causing high pressure in the atmosphere. Now, because the poles are low pressure and the warmer equatorial areas are high pressure, the natural equalisation of pressures, an "anti-vortex" if you like, means that the warm air flows to the cold air areas before finally being mixed by the wind which unfortunately causes observed "warming" and voila! Also, because warm air rises, the Arctic is the sitting duck for biggest change. There is also a forced feedback because it's easier for the sun to heat cooler air than it is to heat warmer air by a fixed temperature increase so the now cooler tropics also become warmer because the air gets heated more efficiently.

I know the theory may sound silly to some, but if climate change can cause both less and more snowfall, less and more temperature extremes, less and more rainfall, less and more storms and basically less and more of everything as long as it's in someway bad then I think it requires some consideration.
The theory.
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The difference is in the coffee it just cools faster the further north ya get .
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The difference is in the coffee it just cools faster the further north ya get .
How do they keep it in the cup down in Oz?
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How do they keep it in the cup down in Oz?
Should have said further you are from equatorial waters. But in oz I guess you would need lots of ice cubes.
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Should have said further you are from equatorial waters. But in oz I guess you would need lots of ice cubes.
Icecubes? Don't stay in the glass long enough to need Icecubes!

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This thread is going dormant, so I thought I would pass the following on to L-E and see if the quote reminds him of someone he knows.

“There’s a great deal of psychological research indicating that
communicating the 97% consensus
is one of the most effective ways of communicating the realities of climate change
because people use expert opinion as a heuristic or mental shortcut to guide their opinion about complicated scientific issues (plus it’s very simple and easy to communicate).”
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Yes. I've decided to hedge my bets and move my boat to Newfoundland.
Finally someone talking a bit of sense, !!!
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