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Old 26-01-2009, 09:56   #1
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When looking at boat ads what do you want to know?

I was contracted this morning to pull off a major make over on a used boat website. The biggest task by far is redoing the outdated ads page. So what I was wondering was when looking at boat for sale ads what are you looking for as far as information?

So far I have the following:
Boat Class
Type
Manufacturer/Model:
Year
Length
Beam
Asking Price
Boat Name
Location
Displacement
Hull Material
Number of Hulls
Cruise Speed
Max Speed
Water Tank Capacity
Holding Tank Capacity
Sleeps how many people
Engine Manufacturer
Eng. year
Eng Horsepower
Eng. Hours
Eng. Coolant
Fuel Type
Fuel Capacity
Keel type
Long text boat description
Head y or n
galley y or n
shower y or n
Electronics long text description
Has boat been a charter

Anything I am missing?
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Old 26-01-2009, 10:06   #2
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A size range and price range filter. One you can enter your own choice into rather than have to select "38-44ft"
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Old 26-01-2009, 10:18   #3
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A size range and price range filter. One you can enter your own choice into rather than have to select "38-44ft"
Already noted. I hate that too!
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Old 26-01-2009, 10:43   #4
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I was contracted this morning to pull off a major make over on a used boat website. The biggest task by far is redoing the outdated ads page. So what I was wondering was when looking at boat for sale ads what are you looking for as far as information?


Anything I am missing?

Ideally, it would be difficult for the broker to not enter the information into. Way too many times it's a case of Nothing In, Nothing out ... or worse. You as the designer could do your part well, but a lazy set of brokers or owners could, in effect, undo what you worked to hard for.

By the way, was that LOA or LWL for length? And internal or external engines.
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Old 26-01-2009, 11:26   #6
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Ideally, it would be difficult for the broker to not enter the information into. Way too many times it's a case of Nothing In, Nothing out ... or worse. You as the designer could do your part well, but a lazy set of brokers or owners could, in effect, undo what you worked to hard for.

By the way, was that LOA or LWL for length? And internal or external engines.
Yeah we were just discussing brokers, I think we have decided they will have their own addition form, and allow for bulk uploads so they can just transfer listings from their database to ours. Brokers have a tendency to be a little bit lazy when compared to a private owner so I think that will work well.

It it LOA in the database(which I need to change) but the person creating the ad will just see length. Added the Inboard/outboard thing
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Definitely! I hate looking at alisting only to find out it is 4 years old and the boat sunk 3 years ago!

Draft! How could I have overlooked that!

Thanks everyone keep them coming, I want this project perfect
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I there are no photos then need to specify. These can be iffy on the 30-40ft range.
Tiller or wheel
Porta-pottie or marine head
separate shower stall (my wife likes this one)
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Probably want to include number of heads.
and Rig (Ketch / Sloop etc)

I would also suggest dating the photos
and a link to the owner's association (if there is one)

Although maybe not one for the advert I would also be interested in how many owners the vessel has had, and how long the current one has had her for. (3 short term owners says to me "Mmmmm" - but I do have trust issues ).

Although not very technical (and IMO all the better for that), I do like:-

Yachts for sale at Yachtsnet online UK yacht brokers - yacht brokerage and boat sales

And I think the archive is a great idea for getting the brokerage / listing known. Fairly simple to build up - albeit not work free........

Not the worlds biggest brokerage operation (so the search side of it is not an issue), but the boats do move off his listings......apart from the nice website, I figure the broker must also be a discerning man of taste - he has sold 3 Seadogs over the last few years
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One word: RSS.

When I was looking at yachtworld.com for boats (refreshed that site every 20 minutes all day long), I wanted RSS feeds for my searches so new boats would just pop up in my reader.

RSS would have been a huge (HUGE) boon to boat searching. The more ways you can put your data in front of potential customers, the more likely they are going to find they boat they want to pour buckets of money into. I can't believe none of the big used boat sites do this yet.
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I there are no photos then need to specify. These can be iffy on the 30-40ft range.
Tiller or wheel
Porta-pottie or marine head
separate shower stall (my wife likes this one)
Photos will be a required item, with a min of 1.

I have to draw the line somewhere and I am hoping the long text description will cover anything like .

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Probably want to include number of heads.
and Rig (Ketch / Sloop etc)


I would also suggest dating the photos
and a link to the owner's association (if there is one)

Although maybe not one for the advert I would also be interested in how many owners the vessel has had, and how long the current one has had her for. (3 short term owners says to me "Mmmmm" - but I do have trust issues ).

Although not very technical (and IMO all the better for that), I do like:-

Yachts for sale at Yachtsnet online UK yacht brokers - yacht brokerage and boat sales

And I think the archive is a great idea for getting the brokerage / listing known. Fairly simple to build up - albeit not work free........

Not the worlds biggest brokerage operation (so the search side of it is not an issue), but the boats do move off his listings......apart from the nice website, I figure the broker must also be a discerning man of taste - he has sold 3 Seadogs over the last few years
1. If i date the photos it will be considered false advertising, the photos could still be 4 years old, and most people dont know how to work the date thing on their camera so I have to pass on this one.

2 See previous reply about having to draw the line somewhere. I too would like to know how long or how many owners a boat has but if I have gotten that far I am probably going to talk to the current owner personally. So I have to pass on this one too.

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Now that is an awesome idea, I will add it to the short list!

The reason I took this project was my own frustration with the lack of up to date used boat websites so hopefully this will cure that problem.
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Money! How much do you have to spend as a function of how much you have to continue spending. The minutia of specifications can be lost in the bigger picture. You need to deal with the parts you already understand.

You don't have to make a decision until you are satisfied that all your concerns are addressed. Nothing should be in a hurry. Your are the one at a disadvantage so until you are comfortable you really are not going any place. There are 100,000 boats out there so you need only one! You can wait.
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