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Old 26-10-2015, 05:56   #1
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Whale watching boat sinks off Vacouver island with fatalities

I heard on radio there was a tragedy off Vancouver island when a whale watching boat sank. Multiple fatalities were reported. Does anyone have local knowledge if this story is accurate or any additional detail?
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Re: Whale watching boat sinks off Vacouver island with fatalities

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I heard on radio there was a tragedy off Vancouver island when a whale watching boat sank. Multiple fatalities were reported. Does anyone have local knowledge if this story is accurate or any additional detail?
Five dead as whale watching boat with 27 on board sinks off Vancouver Island

Rescue helicopters, planes and coast guard vessels scrambled to search the seas after the 65ft Leviathan II tourist boat sank eight miles from shore

Five dead as whale watching boat with 27 on board sinks off Vancouver Island | World news | The Guardian
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Re: Whale watching boat sinks off Vacouver island with fatalities

All I've found so far is 21 rescued, 5 dead, and 1 missing. Didn't give reports as to what happened.
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All I've found so far is 21 rescued, 5 dead, and 1 missing. Didn't give reports as to what happened.
Right ➥ Whale Sightseeing Boat Sinks off west coast of Vancouver Island.
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Re: Whale watching boat sinks off Vacouver island with fatalities

Details still sparse, but apparently the company had a previous incident with fatalities:

Jamie's Whaling Station involved in 1998 fatal whale-watching excursion - British Columbia - CBC News
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Re: Whale watching boat sinks off Vacouver island with fatalities

The boat hit a wave....

Survivor of B.C. tragedy says wave capsized ship | Toronto Star
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Re: Whale watching boat sinks off Vacouver island with fatalities

Having fished commercially in that area years ago, the Plover Reef northwest of Tofino is known by the locals to break in even moderate seas. A sneaker could have easily come in with the regular sets. Fishing used to be really good just west of the reef and the whale runs to north and south are well known. The reef shelves out quite a way as I recall and rises almost vertically from very deep which drives the sea into almost vertical waves as they come ashore from Japan, a long fetch!
I'm sure that the whale watcher skippers are aware of this and one just got caught a little too close. From there on up north to the top of the Island to Brooks Peninsula there are a few rocks but not too much to worry about.
It is a tragedy that so many lives were lost but this the northwest Pacific which is dangerous for even the most experienced skipper.
When I was fishing that area on a troller out of Port Alberni years ago there were many who would not even put in a season before heading inside for calmer waters.
It is a dangerous and unforgiving area and does not suffer lack of attention or a lazy attitude by those who go to sea there. I can recall many days and nights when I would have bet We wouldn't come home! Great learning ground if you had a good teacher! Phil
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Re: Whale watching boat sinks off Vacouver island with fatalities

Tofino whale-watching boat capsized after wave struck, says TSB.
Transportation Safety Board says most passengers were standing on one side of top deck.
Tofino whale-watching boat capsized after wave struck, says TSB - British Columbia - CBC News
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In the reports I have read it said the boat went beam-to the waves so they could have a look at some seals and got caught offguard by the "rogue wave".
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Re: Whale watching boat sinks off Vacouver island with fatalities

Lots of weight (people) on the top deck on one side and a wave hits beam on the opposite side.
Pretty obvious what happens next.
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Lots of weight (people) on the top deck on one side and a wave hits beam on the opposite side.
Pretty obvious what happens next.
Especially, when that upper deck was an untested aftermarket modification.

Records show the MV Leviathan II was originally built in 1981 as a tug boat. It was modified in 1996 — lengthened and refitted with an upper passenger deck — when it was sold to Jamie's Whaling Station, the company operating it when it crashed last Sunday.

Tofino whale-watching boat modifications raise concerns - British Columbia - CBC News
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Re: Whale watching boat sinks off Vacouver island with fatalities

What nobody is saying, but I think a number of people are wondering, is the nature of the "rogue wave" We were watching boats like this in the Strait of Georgia last August. They would be right on top of the whales, sometimes only a few feet from where they surfaced, and then they would follow them around in direct violation of the rules they have here for whale watching. Those whales could usually outmaneuver them, but I kept wondering what would happen if they got between a mom and her calf.
I bet it is more likely they were nudged by a whale or wave of a whale than a rogue wave coming from nowhere on a calm day.
And yes, the whale watchers all get on the same side of the boat, press against the rail and point. It drives me crazy just to watch it.
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What nobody is saying, but I think a number of people are wondering, is the nature of the "rogue wave" We were watching boats like this in the Strait of Georgia last August. They would be right on top of the whales, sometimes only a few feet from where they surfaced, and then they would follow them around in direct violation of the rules they have here for whale watching. Those whales could usually outmaneuver them, but I kept wondering what would happen if they got between a mom and her calf.
I bet it is more likely they were nudged by a whale or wave of a whale than a rogue wave coming from nowhere on a calm day.
And yes, the whale watchers all get on the same side of the boat, press against the rail and point. It drives me crazy just to watch it.
At he risk of offending this poster, if you haven't been out there and to discount the potential of rogue waves in this area is evidence of a lack of knowledge of the undersea terrain and the length of fetch from the western Pacific to our part of the world. I lived and fished off the west coast for several years and can assure you that rogue or sneaker waves happen on the calmest of days and without warning.
The only way to avoid them is to move to Nebraska or Manitoba. They are a fact of life out there on the BC coast and great care must be taken to avoid being caught by one. Phil
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Re: Whale watching boat sinks off Vacouver island with fatalities

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Lots of weight (people) on the top deck on one side and a wave hits beam on the opposite side.
Pretty obvious what happens next.
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Especially, when that upper deck was an untested aftermarket modification.

Records show the MV Leviathan II was originally built in 1981 as a tug boat. It was modified in 1996 lengthened and refitted with an upper passenger deck when it was sold to Jamie's Whaling Station, the company operating it when it crashed last Sunday.

Tofino whale-watching boat modifications raise concerns - British Columbia - CBC News
Anybody that's stepped into, sailed, rowed, paddled, or even had the slightest experience with vessels knows what happened...

Phil is just adding his expertise of the area saying the "extra shove" is quite a bit more likely than.... Plausible!

I would absolutely LOVE to see the stability data for the boat after the mods... I think it would be just a tad bit more than eye opening...
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