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15-07-2010, 12:08
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Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: Kuwait
Boat: Kalik 40
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Wanted: Fat Sailors
Fozzie: There was this sailor who was so fat!
Sailor: How fat was he?
Sailor: [ breaks bottle and points it towards him threateningly]
Fozzie: [ Nervously] Uh, he was so fat that everybody liked him and there was nothing funny about him at all.
Hmm. Now, then - I know this is a sailing forum, and not a weight loss forum - but have you been on a weightloss forum recently? They are full of boring, whining old women who are nowhere near as much fun as you lot are....
I need to lose weight, and I'm looking for buddies. The reasons this relates to sailing (as per forum rules) are:
1 - I am so fat now I feel uncomfortable walking around the boat in heavy weather - especially on the foredeck!
2 - I am so fat now that I can't leap up onto the pushpit in a jiffy when I need to see more!
3 - My sailing clothes are splitting they are so tight!
4 - The pontoon sinks when I get off the boat (not really, but it does wobble precariously).
My excuse: after a bad accident last year I had to have a kidney removed. I spent the following months going to work, eating, going to bed, eating, getting up, eating, and going to work again. Apparently weight gain is to be expected after such an op if you don't up your exercise, and I was just too tired. So I gained 10kg. That's 22lb, if you're American. Or a stone and a half if you're English.
I want to drop 20kg - at half a kg a week. Anyone else need to drop weight with me?
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15-07-2010, 12:16
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Armchair Bucketeer
Join Date: Oct 2006
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So how much do you weigh now?
(I love the internet  )
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15-07-2010, 12:39
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mildy confused and ain't no expert

Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Salem MA/Merrimack NH
Boat: Hunter 410
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22 lbs, heck I can put that in 1 leg
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15-07-2010, 13:39
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Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Solent, UK
Boat: Moody 31
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Can someone fetch a bag of frozen peas for Davids black eye please
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15-07-2010, 13:47
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Join Date: Aug 2009
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Kate, can I suggest mathematics. If you burn up more calories than you eat each day then you must loose weight.
So ignoring crash diets, you need to reduce comfort foods like crisps, cakes, chocolate and wine and ensure you have enough staple foods and exercise each day.
I know all very boring, so I'm sorry but it works.
Pete
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15-07-2010, 13:49
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Armchair Bucketeer
Join Date: Oct 2006
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Pete7
a bag of frozen peas
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Is that Cock-er-ney rhyming slang for "how old is Kate?"
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15-07-2010, 14:17
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Moderator

Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: Kuwait
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Quote:
Originally Posted by David_Old_Jersey
So how much do you weigh now?
(I love the internet  )
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I'll tell you mine if you tell me yours.
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15-07-2010, 14:22
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Moderator

Join Date: Apr 2010
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Pete7
Kate, can I suggest mathematics. If you burn up more calories than you eat each day then you must loose weight.
So ignoring crash diets, you need to reduce comfort foods like crisps, cakes, chocolate and wine and ensure you have enough staple foods and exercise each day.
I know all very boring, so I'm sorry but it works.
Pete
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Thank you, Pete? I know what you are saying is true, because I heard it from the old ladies on the weight loss forums.  Actually, Linda Lou also said it on the radio last year. Yep it makes a lot of sense. I think I'll give it a go.
Wanna be my buddy, and interrogate me about my consumption levels of "comfort foods like crisps, cakes, chocolate and wine' on a daily basis? But I'll only let you do it, if you do it in a funny sort of way.
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15-07-2010, 15:20
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just say no to 5200

Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Mexico, sailing
Boat: Hans Christian 36
Posts: 4,504
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Eat clean, lift heavy, run long, stretch far, sleep long.
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15-07-2010, 15:20
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Registered User
Join Date: May 2010
Location: By the River of Silver
Boat: FPD 1760 LCD 17"screen
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 Gonna join you . On a 25 footer every bit of space gained helps .
I don´t agree that it is as easy as energy out must exceed energy in.
Calorie value was obtained originally by burning the foodstuff checking the thermal energy it releases . Not quite the same as the biological process of burning calories I would think. 
Personally,I go for low carb eating,not because I think carbs are bad per se, but the way they have been refined sensitises our body to crave more and some of us are just better off giving them a wide berth or else face the need for a wide berth....
Also the percentage on our plates and in our glasses is off . Oj, 2slices of bread a thin slice of ham no fat does not make a balanced lunch in my book.
So off with 20 lbs .
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15-07-2010, 15:22
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Registered User
Join Date: May 2010
Location: By the River of Silver
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 Rebel heart I like that summary ! I think it works too.
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15-07-2010, 17:27
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Join Date: May 2007
Location: Boat in Curacao
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A friend of mine (somewhat rubenesque in stature) an expat in Oporto who seemed to be continually on diets without much success, when I left, was bemoning she and her husbands lack of control. Some eighteen months later I passed them in a street without recognising them. Thankfully they recognised me and we repaired to Pub to catch up. They both were much slimmer and I could with complete honesty admire their form and enquired how it had come about. The best advice they were given ( By a doctor) was to drink 10 glasses of water a day and when socialising in the expat community have a wine glass of water between drinks. They were told by the doctor that if they could do no less than that for a year they would lose and keep off atleast 30lbs. If they could further add a little exercise and curb a few of their excesses then this would be further enhanced. For them it worked very well.
On a personal point; I note than when I return from a week on my boat, I am always a little slimmer and lighter ( I am about 12lbs overweight from best age/ weight/frame size). If anything my alcohol and "nibbles" are greatly increased when at the boat. However here in the Southern Caribbean I drink a minimum of 4 litres of water a day on board...something I do not do when back home and working/ socialising... and must say that I feel the better for it. Anyway they swore that it worked for them while generally not impacting much on their social activities. Maybe it will work for you.
Best Regards
Alan
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15-07-2010, 17:37
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Registered User
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: San Francisco Bay
Boat: Fantasia 35 - s/v Feeling Good
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Here is something to try. Google it for more info.
Sexercise for Women | Gather
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15-07-2010, 17:55
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Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: San Francisco Bay
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You need to calculate how many calories your body burns being sedentary in a 24 hour period. You then need to calculate how much your body burns doing whichever exercise you did that day. You then add those two numbers. You then divide that sum by the number of calories you ate in the last 24 hours. If this number is below 1 averaged over x amount of time, then you will lose weight.....its that simple. No crazy diets or ridiculous amounts of exercise....just numbers to tell you if you are headed in the right direction.
One pound of body fat equals 3500 calories. If you burn 3000 calories and eat 2000 calories in a day then it will take you 3.5 days to lose one pound of body fat.
Losing weight is all about the math.
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15-07-2010, 18:05
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Moderator Emeritus

Join Date: May 2007
Location: Singapore
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During the 2009 J24 nationals I was a big problem on the boat. I was tipping the scale at 113 kg. When the 5-person crew is allowed to weigh 400kg all up you can see the problem.
I had to get past denial. I am not big boned, genetically challenged, a little overweight or any other damn excuse. I am a fat bastard. I will always be a fat bastard. It's like being an alcoholic. You must accept that it is all within your control.
I also believe that the reason diets fail is becuase they are "diets." No one likes to be on a diet. But to get from 113 to my eventual 97 I had to make some tough choices. Everyone has their opinion about how you should diet. Doctors will tell you to take it slow. Follow your doctors advice. but here is what I did to lose 16 kg in 3 months.
1 - Water. Lots of water. Like 3-4 liters a day. You are flushin all kinds of bad stuff out of you. Water is the lubrication of life.
2 - Cut out all carbs except the occasional soda cracker. No sugar, no rice, no potato, no bread.
3 - As much veggies and fruit as you want.
4 - Proteins in moderation. Chicken breast, steak, pork etc. Eat the sauces and so on. You are winning on the carb front.
5 - Almost zero dairy - Dairy contains a lot of fat.
6 - Zero sugar drinks and zero beer. Drink wine and sugar free mixes - Crystal lite makes some great stuff.
7 - Sweets? Forget it.
Weigh yourself every day at the same time. I do it first thing in the morning.
Reward yourself with a "normal" dinner at each plateau. 5 kilos gone? Have a steak dinner. 10 kilos gone have a steak dinner.
I have to admit I have crept back up to 103. I am on the program until I get to 95.
Good luck!
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