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Old 20-12-2013, 20:47   #181
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Try poverty and say that

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I don't advocate stealing, then again governments put people into poverty. I can't even grow my own food or hunt and fish without being taxed...or own a shelter without being taxed
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All jokes aside, will Canadian healthcare cover you if you are cruising anywhere and everywhere?
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I don't advocate stealing, then again governments put people into poverty. I can't even grow my own food or hunt and fish without being taxed...or own a shelter without being taxed
Or drive on public roads maintained by the government without being taxed. Or sail your boat on the government maintained ICW without being taxed. The list could go on. If you don't like paying taxes find a country that doesn't insist you pay taxes and move there.
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Or drive on public roads maintained by the government without being taxed. Or sail your boat on the government maintained ICW without being taxed. The list could go on. If you don't like paying taxes find a country that doesn't insist you pay taxes and move there.
None of that is funded by income tax or personal property tax...ICW is funded by corporate tax and roads are funded by gas tax
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The reality is if the rich don't give up some of their record profits and start paying a living wage there will be no one to purchase their products. That's reality, it won't last forever.
I look upon more like the Scandinavian model , that society as a whole must act as a community. Hence the poor cant be allowed to be too poor nor the rich allowed to be too rich. Taxes get used to shuffle around the stuff. Society accepts the compromise for the greater good.

Yes there are freeloaders , but that doesn't negate the concept.

Equally these countries seem to enjoy a very high standard of living , I mean Norway is above the US. Etc I'm sure they all have issues, but it seems to work reasonably well

France is. Real eye opener , really good public healthcare , top class hospitals , world class outcomes , 70 % of coats funded by the public purse , you and the employer pay via social insurance payments , salary deductions , then you take out cheap top -up insurance to cover the 30%

In case your wondering , I've been in hospitals in Ireland , UK, Germany and France. Thank god never in the US when I lived there. I was always staggered by medical costs there , nothing seemed to compare.


An uncle of my wife, whose family are in the US who is from Birmingham ( the real one ) , forgot some years ago to buy his travel insurance at Birmingham airport ( because why would anyone in the UK have health cover) and had a heart attack in the US , his family there got a bill for $50,000, it nearly bankrupted their business, I mean bankrupting people for medical bills , that's just nuts.


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Also do governments build roads...pretty positive
Private companies are contracted out to do that, government being the middle man.
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None of that is funded by income tax or personal property tax...ICW is funded by corporate tax and roads are funded by gas tax
And those are taxes are they not?
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But serious question, will Canadian healthcare cover you if you are a cruiser anywhere and everywhere?
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And those are taxes are they not?
They are apportioned taxes, I'm of with apportioned taxes...no ok with unapportioned taxes
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But serious question, will Canadian healthcare cover you if you are a cruiser anywhere and everywhere?
Why should it.

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Also do governments build roads...pretty positive
Private companies are contracted out to do that, government being the middle man.
Do builders build houses? Yes even though they contract the labor out to private companies.
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None of that is funded by income tax or personal property tax...ICW is funded by corporate tax and roads are funded by gas tax
It's not like that, tax is just tax , the money source is irrelevant. Unless its ring fenced tax, it's just part of the overall tax take.

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I don't know the answer to that question for today. My youngest daughter was born in Virginia and the hospital costs were covered by Ontario. Medical costs covered by employer. When I travel I get travel insurance, have never had to use it, thankfully.

Oops, I dropped an alternator on my toe when in Belize. Medical insurance (Blue Cross) paid my airfare home.
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They are apportioned taxes, I'm of with apportioned taxes...no ok with unapportioned taxes
Guess you'll just have to learn to live with it.
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Do builders build houses? Yes even though they contract the labor out to private companies.
But I get to choose my builder....
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