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18-10-2014, 15:18
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#226
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Re: Spain and Ebola: Discuss
I've got 1 reef in; not ready for bear-poles. Going down to 2 reefs real soon, making tea, and getting my kayak helmit ready.
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18-10-2014, 16:08
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#227
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Registered User
Join Date: Oct 2011
Boat: Valiant 42
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Re: Spain and Ebola: Discuss
The system in Dallas "worked" in so far as no one in the general population has contracted Ebola. Every day that goes by will decrease exponentially the probability that someone will. There is still a risk of infection within the health care workers but there has been no evidence that this got outside the hospital. No matter how much screaming you see in the news none of the stories about traveling nurses and lab techs suggests there was ever any risk to the public. Was it smart to let them travel? No, but only on the grounds of public misinformation. It caused well meaning people to over react and waste resources. It made politicians look worse too. Scientifically they represented no significant risk to the public. None of the crazy talk has been shown to be right. The science known before this event in Dallas has been proven correct. Why no one wants to believe that is a complete mystery. Why do people ignore facts and believe the worst?
Regarding the patient "lying", remember Dr. House said "everybody lies". Doctors and nurses know that but what can you do about it?
There is an interview of a doctor who attended Mr. Duncan at the end. It is on the WFAA web site. It's not very long and worth reading. He doesn't come off looking too good but he gives some new facts that rebut the "common perceptions" about the patient's care.
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18-10-2014, 16:32
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#228
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cruiser
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Re: Spain and Ebola: Discuss
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Originally Posted by transmitterdan
Why do people ignore facts and believe the worst?
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You have got to be kidding.
Facts? What facts? There are no facts. There were never any facts. There are only interpretations (Wittgenstein was right) and on a small tip of an iceberg. What about the unknown unknowns that lay beneath? There's for sure lack of credibility though, and as such, we can only reef to see if the storm comes our way.
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18-10-2014, 17:30
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#229
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Moderator Emeritus
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: Northern NSW.Australia
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Re: Spain and Ebola: Discuss
By the results and posts on this thread you can see why the news media only concentrates on sensation and bad news. People love it.
I ignore the whole thing, whatever it is that is the current "daily scare" I usually do not know anything about it.. The days pass with a few laughs and some adventures. I may get it I may not. I may drown at sea. I may not. I may get killed on my motorcycle or in my car. I may not.
You may get it. You may not. But while you are worrying about if you will, or demanding the authorities do something to protect you from it, but carrying on your life as normal, then you have the same chance as me. The only difference is that I will have had more enjoyment of the days that went before perhaps. Perhaps not.
Coops.
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18-10-2014, 18:02
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#230
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cruiser
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Re: Spain and Ebola: Discuss
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Originally Posted by Coops
I will have had more enjoyment of the days that went before perhaps. Perhaps not.
Coops.
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18-10-2014, 18:42
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#231
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Registered User
Join Date: Aug 2013
Location: Back in Montt.
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Re: Spain and Ebola: Discuss
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19-10-2014, 07:26
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#232
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Senior Cruiser
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: gettin naughty on the beach in cornwall
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Re: Spain and Ebola: Discuss
I managed to sit next to the only 2 other Africans on the plane to Singapore for 13 hours...........
two nice Nigerian professors intransit to bali...............wish me luck
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19-10-2014, 07:29
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Join Date: Feb 2014
Location: Seville London Eastbourne
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Re: Spain and Ebola: Discuss
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Originally Posted by atoll
I managed to sit next to the only 2 other Africans on the plane to Singapore for 13 hours...........
two nice Nigerian professors intransit to bali...............wish me luck
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I hope you engaged them in good conversation and learned something.........
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10% of conflicts are due to different opinions. 90% by the tone of voice.
Raise your words, not your voice. It is rain that grows flowers, not thunder.
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19-10-2014, 07:30
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#234
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Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Winnipeg
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Re: Spain and Ebola: Discuss
I messed up on the word Funambulist...my friend didn't make it up and didn't claim to. I never thought to google it before I posted.
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19-10-2014, 07:31
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#235
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Join Date: Feb 2014
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Re: Spain and Ebola: Discuss
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Originally Posted by DeepFrz
I messed up on the word Funambulist...my friend didn't make it up and didn't claim to. I never thought to google it before I posted.
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And we being the kind souls we are, did not correct you.........
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- Never test how deep the water is with both feet -
10% of conflicts are due to different opinions. 90% by the tone of voice.
Raise your words, not your voice. It is rain that grows flowers, not thunder.
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19-10-2014, 07:35
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#236
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Senior Cruiser
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Re: Spain and Ebola: Discuss
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Originally Posted by weavis
I hope you engaged them in good conversation and learned something.........
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I think I might have given one of them my cold that I caught on easy jet a few weeks back,must be some poetic justice there
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19-10-2014, 07:38
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#237
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Moderator Emeritus
Join Date: Feb 2014
Location: Seville London Eastbourne
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Re: Spain and Ebola: Discuss
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Originally Posted by atoll
I think I might have given one of them my cold that I caught on easy jet a few weeks back,must be some poetic justice there
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The weird thing is that if the airlines changed their pressurisation and air exchange settings, a much healthier environment would be enjoys by all. Yes you are correct.. MONEY! ..... it takes a bit more fuel to do it.
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- Never test how deep the water is with both feet -
10% of conflicts are due to different opinions. 90% by the tone of voice.
Raise your words, not your voice. It is rain that grows flowers, not thunder.
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19-10-2014, 07:58
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#238
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cruiser
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Location: SF Bay Area; Former Annapolis and MA Liveaboard.
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Re: Spain and Ebola: Discuss
Quote:
Originally Posted by atoll
I managed to sit next to the only 2 other Africans on the plane to Singapore for 13 hours...........
two nice Nigerian professors intransit to bali...............wish me luck
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Holy Monkey!!! Professors of what? Virology? Epidemiology?
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19-10-2014, 08:08
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#239
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Registered User
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Winnipeg
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Re: Spain and Ebola: Discuss
Cold? They let you fly with a cold? How lax...
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19-10-2014, 17:36
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#240
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Registered User
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: California
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Re: Spain and Ebola: Discuss
I've tried several times to write a post reasonably discussing our new Ebola response protocol that just came out, and have deleted it every time.
I think the safest thing to say is that we just got the cliff notes version today, and the whole thing is still being drafted.
JRM
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