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Old 30-10-2014, 00:51   #346
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They also lead the pack in faking data...

The news quote came from the World Health Organization, you gotta give credit where credit is due.
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I don't know if the Cubans are volunteers or not either...
FWIW: According to this article, the Cuban health care workers are vollunteers.
More Cuban doctors and nurses arrive in west Africa to fight Ebola | Global development | The Guardian

“... Speaking before they flew to Liberia, two Cuban doctors told Reuters that competition to join the west African mission – which attracted 15,000 volunteers – had been fierce ...
... His colleague Leonardo Fernández said the volunteers had felt compelled to help. “We know that we are fighting against something that we don’t totally understand. We know what can happen. We know we’re going to a hostile environment,” he said. “But it is our duty. That’s how we’ve been educated.”

"... Last week the US secretary of state, John Kerry, broke with decades of US criticism of the communist state when he praised Cuba for its “impressive” efforts to tackle Ebola. “Cuba, a country of just 11 million people, has sent 165 health professionals and it plans to send nearly 300 more,” he told foreign diplomats in Washington.

On Tuesday, US officials went further, saying they were happy to be cooperating with Havana. “We welcome the opportunity to collaborate with Cuba to confront the Ebola outbreak. Cuba is making significant contributions by sending hundreds of health workers to Africa,” a state department source told AFP. “In that spirit, the US department of state is communicating with all members of the international community, including Cuba, involved in this global effort through multilateral channels such as the World Health Organisation as well as diplomatic briefings.” ...”
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Cuba deserves praise if those numbers are true. But what is a bit scary living in South Florida is does that make Cuba a likely place for an outbreak of their own. You wonder what they have in place for the returning workers. And then with our proximity to Cuba and the amount of travel back and forth, you can easily see it spreading to South Florida.
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Oh look! It's a new information graphic from the CDC.

http://nypost.com/2014/10/29/cdc-adm...-spread-ebola/
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CDC admits droplets from a sneeze could spread Ebola | New York Post
Funny how yesterdays lies are todays yesses...
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Funny how yesterdays lies are todays yesses...
If you read the article, and you've been keeping up, this is perfectly consistent with what the CDC has said all along.
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"... Last week the US secretary of state, John Kerry, broke with decades of US criticism of the communist state when he praised Cuba for its “impressive” efforts to tackle Ebola. “Cuba, a country of just 11 million people, has sent 165 health professionals and it plans to send nearly 300 more,” he told foreign diplomats in Washington.

On Tuesday, US officials went further, saying they were happy to be cooperating with Havana. “We welcome the opportunity to collaborate with Cuba to confront the Ebola outbreak. ...”
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what is a bit scary living in South Florida is does that make Cuba a likely place for an outbreak of their own. You wonder what they have in place for the returning workers. And then with our proximity to Cuba and the amount of travel back and forth, you can easily see it spreading to South Florida.

I was thinking last night about each of the healthcare workers and volunteers, how odd there actions have been.. Taking off on cruises, refusing quarantine, outright lying in the one doctors case....

A conspiracy theorist might start to wonder if this wasn't a concerted effort to cause an outbreak.
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I'm not sure the CDC has said anything consistently. How can you say something can't be spread by the air but then say it can be spread by coughing and sneezing. Semantics? Come on...
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If you like your Ebola....you can keep your Ebola.

or was it something like that?

Heck if I lived in Cuba under the thumb of a dictator I would volunteer for Ebola duty as well...what do I have to lose.
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Atoll thank you for posting news abouts Ebola and Spain on this thread. Regardless of the thread drift, I would be very grateful if you continued to post anything related to the original thread topic. Ty!

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I am not taking any chances during the incubation period.....so have been dosing myself with generous doses of RUM until my 21 day incubation period is up.....

I have decided to stay in Pattaya Thailand for another 2 weeks ,just in case as I would not like to give ebola to my family in the uk .......also it is cold there and rum is not as cheap
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In my experience Cubans are a pretty happy lot, true on average they don't have a lot but they worship at a different altar than the rest of us. Their world revolves around family and friends and less about what material items they own. Its in their nature to help others without their hand out so I doubt very much that traveling to Africa has anything to do with running away.
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... How can you say something can't be spread by the air but then say it can be spread by coughing and sneezing. Semantics? Come on...
The differences between airborne & droplet contact & direct contact transmission may seen subtle (but not merely semantic), but nonetheless very significant.

Methods of Disease Transmission
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Fact or Fiction?: The Ebola Virus Will Go Airborne - Scientific American
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I'm not sure the CDC has said anything consistently. How can you say something can't be spread by the air but then say it can be spread by coughing and sneezing. Semantics? Come on...
Well, see for yourself. This FAQ has been consistent since the beginning of the current epidemic in West Africa. Q&As on Transmission | Ebola Hemorrhagic Fever | CDC

But it's more fun, I suppose, to mull and malign.
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Cuba is not a free state. No amount of lipstick (socialist cowtow narative) will change it from a pig.

On the other hand, some populations are better off with a dictatorship.
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Cuba is not a free state. No amount of lipstick (socialist cowtow narative) will change it from a pig.

On the other hand, some populations are better off with a dictatorship.
Couldn't agree more, Iraq for example!
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