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Old 05-08-2010, 16:28   #796
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To name a few of my needs,
I need to trust the man I知 with is honest,
I need affection
I need humor
I need communication
I need monogamy
*
Wants,
He値l like art
He値l love all the same music that I do
He値l never watch sporting events
He値l be smarter than me (not hard to be)
He値l always put the toilet seat back down
To name a few of my needs,
I need to trust the woman I知 with is honest,
I need affection
I need humor
I need communication
I need monogamy
*
Wants,
She値l like art
She値l love all the same music that I do
She値l never watch sporting events
She値l be smart enough where I don't have to dumb down what I talk about
She値l always put the toilet seat back up

I guess that last one puts the nix on you and me. Dang.

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Old 05-08-2010, 16:29   #797
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Saltymonkey, why does the boat have to be yours? Any boat you buy will have been someone else's before it's yours. If the relationship with the skipper is close and loving, I'm sure you could make whatever changes you needed to to make it more your own, and even be the skipper.

If our wants are too rigid, like Salty's, then there's no hope for finding a mate.

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If our wants are too rigid, like Salty's, then there's no hope for finding a mate.
But at least he would be well prepared
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Old 05-08-2010, 16:35   #799
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(enuf of the group hugging ***** )
Actually was impressed with your "needs" post, then ya post this. You don't fall off pedestals, you dive .

Jetexas, sounds like quite a girl to get hurt and still be game for another sail. And being thrown the helm at a moments notice doesn't guaranty and good course. You boys need to get some reality here! Sigh (loudly), momma is worried about you guys. You all are such lovely people, and this internet stuff is fine and dandy but please be open to what is in front of you. A real flesh and bones person is much better then wifi megabyte interactions.

One a brighter note, no one is complaining that there are no girl sailors to be found (wink).
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Wow - this thread has developed......I've been at sea for the last 10 days - which is another story involving a retired Titty Bar Pole Dancer and a goofy dog - neither of which I really wanted or needed on the boat but in the end it worked out sort of ok and the delivery was performed up to standard.

So - where was I? Well - dunno, really. I think there's a little bit too much introspection and wishful thinking in the thread however. Do you remember how you met/fell in love with your first man or woman? Well - its the same thing surely? You meet someone, you get attracted, you talk, and if it develops, it develops. If, somewhere in the "talk stage" one party doesnt like the other's aspirations or hopes or desires or whatevers.....then it gently fades away.....no biggie. I lost more gorgeous women than I can shake a stick at just by being a young naval officer (which in those days was a reasonably glamourous profession) who actually went to sea: only to find that they had found someone who came home every night.....oh well. We didnt have internet of course in those days (or gps and lots of other things including viagra as far as I recall)

enough of my rambling - I dont think I'm really achieving anything!! Bless you all, Tony
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One a brighter note, no one is complaining that there are no girl sailors to be found (wink).
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Last weekend I actually met one of CF's Mermaid girl sailors in the flesh and I was semi naked for at least part of the time ...........not seen her since mind

Hope she hasn't forgotten about the anti-fouling thing come next spring
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bvimatelot - well, hell you would have been divorced anyway...something like 75% is the Naval Average. Be glad. welcome back to the best thread on the CF
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bvimatelot - well, hell you would have been divorced anyway...something like 75% is the Naval Average. Be glad. welcome back to the best thread on the CF
Cheers, Shipmate!! But seriously, although I said Gorgeous (and they were), that's just the initial attraction - well before the "getting to know you" stage where for probably 99% of the girls, I wouldnt have been able to meet their standards. (Although I do consider myself to be quite gorgeous.....even now!)

Maybe wife of 35 years saw something that I didnt know I had, maybe she's a bit "simple", or maybe its lasted 'cos I'm not always at home to get under her feet....who knows??
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(Although I do consider myself to be quite gorgeous.....even now!)
ahh spoken like a true humble squidly you are
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saltymonkeyboy you crack me up--and you are so dead on.
david--ye got it--then ye dont--but ye are shelled outside and soft innards--like all of us and have fun time figgering out who to trust/. when ye find her, you both will be awesome...and she will be very lucky.
iwsteel--you fit the profile that always killed me --but i had sooo much fun dying--if that was dying--it was an awful lot of fun!!!! you had the wrong spouse--yipes--so didnt we all, eh?
bvi--i love you...why does what you say sound some like what goes thru my mined,,LOL...
gadagirl--good work!!
ocean girl--this is fun!!
anjou--you sound like a lady i could enjoy meeting--and i dont like many women--tooo many are weird and hurtful without reason.

so, now, tell me something, now the arse kissing s done---

why not sail a lady's boat?? especially if it is a 41 ft cruiser and ye hasnt one at all--wouldnt it save you some dough?? wouldnt it get you out to sea?? wouldnt it help in finding a boat you really really like?? woudnt it help with the assessment of sailing needs?? or would it get down to being just the "bitch's boat"????

and, yes--many men have lied to me--i almost feel that their job in life is to lie. that is a deal breaker also. telling of falsehoods is a basic ruination of trust. how is it possible to trust a liar? i have to put my life in their hands---if they lie--how is that going to help anything , much less build trust?

ok yesterday i turned 62. for 58 of those years i KNOW i have been lied to at east yearly , by males. that can be figured as an average.i am tired of lying men. i donot like cheating men. is same as lying.
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why not sail a lady's boat?? especially if it is a 41 ft cruiser and ye hasnt one at all--wouldnt it save you some dough?? wouldnt it get you out to sea?? wouldnt it help in finding a boat you really really like?? woudnt it help with the assessment of sailing needs?? or would it get down to being just the "bitch's boat"????
bitch's boat? Nay, not so crude. Its ethically wrong. It's getting on a boat for your own benefit (money, out to sea, assessment, finding alike), not out of duty or because its just the right thing to do. Bottom line - it's just not my boat. I want my own boat. Someday I will find a boat

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LOL saltymonkeyboy--supposing you kmetw lady you couldnt live without. supposing she had a boat of awesome dream fulfilling kind you always wanted more than ice cream....or whatever..you cant wait to sail it---BUT belongs to HER eeewewwwww---would you have her sell that boat and sail with you on yours?
would you pool resources and share her boat now the team boat--partnering together and sharing the boat--or would that still have HER BOAT connotation??......or would you just sail yours and live in hers or vice versa or not any of the above...??? how would you handle that????
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Being a Gemini type:

. You know someone full of confidence, who needs to get inspired before doing something.

I知 the type who tends to move on to new challenges before finishing the one I am working on.too open to changing things at the last minute.

I am a Person full of contradictions.. but painfully loyal.

I need a woman who will inspire me to believe that her happiness translates into my own. (the importance of being selfish)

I need an anchor, a focused waypoint in a partner, who will help get me across that goal line.

I need to be the protector, the breadwinner and the navigatorI知 good at it, but I am lousy at remembering daily details.

I also need a partner who has the patience and sense of humor to laugh at my contradictions, yet still has the confidence in me to know that we will work it out.

I need our lovemaking to be intense, mutually satisfying and varied. She will then know that one night sexcapades with a stranger will hold no attraction for me and will never threaten our relationship..did I mention the loyalty bit? .. that is the source of my moral energy and monogamy.

Both of us need to be happy with who we are and recognize that we do not need changing.

I need that person to also need me for reasons that they are comfortable with without being desperate.

Wants are negotiable. Needs are not.
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ROFL! Mule, seriously? You must have known some awfully nice men, then. Or else men who would not tell you what they were up to, for whatever reason (religion?).

That is a tongue in cheek question,
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Sometime back I read a story about some monkeys where the male chirped and carried on promising the female food. The female finally gives in and comes over to and finds herself raped in the males tree. Lying male monkeys.

I tried to find that link and waded through a whole lot about monkey sex. I added the link above because it interesting. It shows how the scientist trained monkey to use money for treats and food. Pretty soon the males were giving the females money for sex. Damn, I guess the oldest profession is older than we thought.
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LOL saltymonkeyboy--supposing you kmetw lady you couldnt live without. supposing she had a boat of awesome dream fulfilling kind you always wanted more than ice cream....or whatever..you cant wait to sail it---BUT belongs to HER eeewewwwww---would you have her sell that boat and sail with you on yours?
would you pool resources and share her boat now the team boat--partnering together and sharing the boat--or would that still have HER BOAT connotation??......or would you just sail yours and live in hers or vice versa or not any of the above...??? how would you handle that????
theoretically speaking, of course
Oh so theoretical zee so theoretical oh my my! I am not sure but mega issues with people on my boat because of responsibility like if we like were in tight situation and like boat was lost and we were in water in storm chewing ice creme gum. I would not like to look to lovey dovey one last time to say:

"ooops. Lovey dovey, sorry to trouble you, but we are truly F**Ked. My bad. Hugs?"

or like i come on deck for watch time and find lovey dovey gone and only Sudoko book out on deck.

saltymonkey cannot, will not, live with such thoughts every day while lovely dovey on board.
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