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Old 06-09-2016, 11:05   #31
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Re: Sea Mile to Number of Posts Ratio

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The more sea miles the greater the risk that the poster has spent too much time alone and talking to themselves. If a person does that for too long the left lobe keeps agreeing with the right lobe and V/V. That in turn leads them to believe that only they and they alone knows the correct way that things should be done..

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Well that explains why I am always talking to myself. The only difference is the more I learn the less I realize I know. By the time I croak I figure I won't know anything.
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Well that explains why I am always talking to myself. The only difference is the more I learn the less I realize I know. By the time I croak I figure I won't know anything.

By time you croak anything you've learned you won't remember.


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Do sea miles up and down at anchor count?


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Re: Sea Mile to Number of Posts Ratio

Do submerged miles count? Does nuclear propulsion count as sailing? Probably not...
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Re: Sea Mile to Number of Posts Ratio

Outstanding topic, Rich! I recently had this "conversation" in a previous post where a respondent claimed, in my opinion, a disproportionate number of miles sailed based upon the sailing season in the Great Lakes. For those of us who have captained our own boat in these waters, some numbers are theoretically possible but, not probable based on weather, time availability and down-time for maintenance/repairs on the boat. So, if you are a typical North European, like me, keeping a log is a logical extension of your personality. I have logged every sea mile and every maintenance item on my boats since I first started sailing. It was done for no other reason than to have a recallable log of my sailing history. The least amount of miles sailed per year was in the Great Lakes where a job, weather, and holiday/weekend sailing made accumulating sea miles difficult. However, when we moved our boat to the Tropics for ten years and lived aboard full-time and did not work, we piled up sea miles very quickly. So, when you talk about sea miles, there must be a perspective: 1.) did you sail your own boat or were you rail meat/deck ape for another captain?, 2.)were the miles accumulated over a number of years or were they sailed in a short period of time?, 3.) did you maintain your boat or was it serviced by the marine service industry wherever it broke? 4.) did you do all your own weather planning or did you follow the moving herd from location to location?, 5.) did you plan/execute your navigation or did you strictly follow a chartplotter without paper charts?, 6.) and, finally, were you the captain and the one who made all the critical decisions and were ultimately responsible for the safe passage of your boat or was your sailing experience a democratic enterprise among a committee of mariners? Only knowing these things can mileage have any relevancy since a person with 10K miles of serious ocean sailing captaining his own boat would, in my opinion, have far greater weight than certified "rail meat" for 40K miles just along for the ride. I suppose it can be clearly pictured by a simple question: does a passenger on the Queen Mary who has just crossed the North Atlantic with his bum planted in a deck chair sipping dry martinis have the same type of sea miles accumulated as the Captain who has safely navigated his ship to the other side of the ocean? Sea miles? They are only relevant to your education, experience and growth as a seaman. . . miles like size do not really matter . . . on second thought, perhaps that wasn't my best analogy. Good luck and safe sailing.
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I honestly have no idea how many miles I have, I really never bothered to count and I am not sure how I would.
Our chartplotter records total mileage. Presently just under 30,000 miles.
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Nowhere anywhere in the professional maritime world is "sea miles" used as a measure of competence. In any license application experience is measured in days and years at sea.
RYA yachtmaster scheme? Although that's not a license as such and even if it were it'd be a licence.

Of course both "days at sea" and "sea miles" aren't necessarily a measure of experience or competence. You can rack up 3.5k miles or 30-odd days at sea as crew on a single transatlantic. Does that make you more "experienced" than the person who's skippered across biscay and back and zig-zagged across the north sea a dozen times? Probably not.

In the electronics-related parts of this forum we're always getting people effectively saying "you should believe me because I work in computer security / for the NSA/GCHQ". Folks who actually know what they're talking about don't need to use their occupation to assert their statement's value.

Judge a post on its quality, not the unverified claims of "experience" by the poster.
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It's not the number of sea miles but
Where the miles were sailed

Biscay is not the ICW

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Re: Sea Mile to Number of Posts Ratio

Re the question of "why would one measure sea miles"?: for those of us who predate electronic navigation, we ran deck logs and did DR plots to facilitate our celestial fixes. The habit has persisted for me, and keeping a total miles log as well as a daily run log is second nature.

For those who do lots of miles on other folks boats, where they are not in charge of navigation, the task is not so automatic, and I can understand why they'd have no idea.

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Re: Sea Mile to Number of Posts Ratio

I know I did 12,000NM in one year - about 50 years ago.

Never worked out how many I've done since.
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(That 12,000 was on a migrant ship UK-NZ)
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Statistics. Oh boy.
I'd rather go sailing.

Agree, seems more like a penis measurement thread.


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[QUOTE=smj;2207425]Agree, seems more like a penis measurement thread.

How would that work for women? I wonder if Jean Socrates could respond to this thread?
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Agree, seems more like a penis measurement thread.

How would that work for women? I wonder if Jean Socrates could respond to this thread?
If she shops at Ann Summers... very likely..
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Due dilegence! Sea miles or hours logged still don't tell you if a person is smart enough to give intelligent advice. If you need to know something use 3 sources and compare the answers. If the sources agree then it's probably good stuff to know.
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Never thought about miles just the years and months actually underway and the s!!#t I have lived thru. Those who have don't brag. ( or whine ) about it.
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