Plastic in Pacific Ocean Gyre

[StuM]

> Australia? Plenty ...but once again rarely shopping bags - disposable lighters, toothbrushes (??) and jandles... never in pairs..always just single jandles.. seem to top the list.

Aussie walking along the beach sees his mate coming towards him wearing one thong (aka jandal (sp!) or flip flop) and says:

"G'day mate! Lost a thong?"

Mate answer: "Nah, just found one".

[jongleur]

SailBender said: Per capita, Americans account for a hell of a lot more pollution than any country in Asia...

But it does come down to sheer numbers of people.
Too many people=>Too much pollution

[El Pinguino]

Originally Posted by StuM

> Australia? Plenty ...but once again rarely shopping bags - disposable lighters, toothbrushes (??) and jandles... never in pairs..always just single jandles.. seem to top the list.

Aussie walking along the beach sees his mate coming towards him wearing one thong (aka jandal (sp!) or flip flop) and says:

"G'day mate! Lost a thong?"

Mate answer: "Nah, just found one".

Ooooh ... I thought it was a shortened form of 'Japanese Sandle' ... oh bugger.... maybe I just can't spell.... I'll just stick to calling them Red Sea seaboots.

Ping the Disslecksick

[StuM]

Originally Posted by El Pinguino

Ooooh ... I thought it was a shortened form of 'Japanese Sandle' ... oh bugger.... maybe I just can't spell.... I'll just stick to calling them Red Sea seaboots.

Ping the Disslecksick

Ashley, it's "Japanese Sandal" (or "Chinese Workboot")

[El Pinguino]

Originally Posted by StuM

Ashley, it's "Japanese Sandal" (or "Chinese Workboot")

Oh, is that how you spell 'sandal'.... all these years I've been spelling it rong.... wonder what else I carnt spel.... maybe my schoolmates wern't laughing with me but at me...

[LeLY]

Local market started giving incentives for people to bring reusable bags instead of taking plastic ones. Vary rarely do I forget to bring one of the dozen canvas bags I have.

I can't imagine banning them nationwide would be too horrible though it might put some companies out of business which would suck.

[GordMay]

Just got my wife a set of S/S drinking straws.

[Red Sky]

Originally Posted by LeLY

Local market started giving incentives for people to bring reusable bags instead of taking plastic ones. Vary rarely do I forget to bring one of the dozen canvas bags I have.

I can't imagine banning them nationwide would be too horrible though it might put some companies out of business which would suck.

Here in the S.F. Bay Area, we’ve had to bring our own bags for 3-4 years now. We don’t get an incentive, if you don’t have a bag...10 cents for a paper one. Just recently plastic straws were banned, I bought some of the SS ones also.

[zeehag]

STOP LITTERING. funny how stuff only comes to ocean after it is tossed out of the hands of a HUMAN.
gotta love how the folks with enough dough to buy separate garbage bags mandated for disposal of garbage and trash are the ones denying the folks with lesser income and limited incomes, who count on reusing the shopping bags as garbage and trash bags, the ability to re use these items as such. think about it. hoas demand bagged trash and garbage., garbage removal folks demand bagged trash, and sailing, one saves bagged trash and garbage for dispo in next fuel stop containment.
just stop littering.

[GordMay]

Originally Posted by zeehag

STOP LITTERING. funny how stuff only comes to ocean after it is tossed out of the hands of a HUMAN.
gotta love how the folks with enough dough to buy separate garbage bags mandated for disposal of garbage and trash are the ones denying the folks with lesser income and limited incomes, who count on reusing the shopping bags as garbage and trash bags, the ability to re use these items as such. think about it. hoas demand bagged trash and garbage., garbage removal folks demand bagged trash, and sailing, one saves bagged trash and garbage for dispo in next fuel stop containment.
just stop littering.

I certainly get (& agree with) your point; but in many locations (including mine) garbage left in cans may be in reused shopping bags - only unenclosed bags, left on the street, and recyclables, must be of a prescribed type

[zeehag]

gord you are inside usa, yes??? it is required here to bag all trash even in cans. amazing how the lowest income folks are the worst damaged due to the demands of the rich creating criminals out of that which is used most often, instead of forcing accountability. really responsible isnt it.

[grantmc]

Originally Posted by LeLY

Local market started giving incentives for people to bring reusable bags instead of taking plastic ones. Vary rarely do I forget to bring one of the dozen canvas bags I have.

I can't imagine banning them nationwide would be too horrible though it might put some companies out of business which would suck.

Plastic supermarket shopping bags were recently banned in New Zealand. The world didn't end.

[GordMay]

I'm on Lake Superior, in Thunder Bay Canada.
Here, we can use any bag (or none) inside a garbage can; but when left out on their own (not in can) the city requires heavy duty garbage bags. I haven't noticed them enforcing it, though. I've left out 1 or 2 grogery bags (/w garbage inside), and they were picked up without comment. YMMV.

[El Pinguino]

I always thought the eastern South Pacific was reasonably clean... apart from the occasional abandoned yacht washing up on the Patagonian shore....

Then I saw this..... https://www.royalnavy.mod.uk/news-an...lastic-pacific

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-H...10?imgmax=1600

Much seems to be of 'maritime' origin...

Hmmmm ... "grogery bags"... do they hand them out in sly grog shops?

[fgd3]

I wonder why jurisdictions which ban single-use plastic grocery bags don't also ban plastic trash bags, which are always larger and heavier than the grocery bags.


Grocery bags may or may not be single-use. I use them to carry home my groceries, to wrap food in the refrigerator, to carry assorted small items, and to line wastebaskets at home. My grocery bags get at least two uses, sometimes more.


Trash bags, on the other hand, are generally used just once, when they are filled with garbage and discarded.


The amount of plastic trash generated around the world is a serious problem, but banning plastic grocery bags and straws is not going to do much to ameliorate it.


Fabbian