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Old 22-04-2014, 14:11   #16
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Re: NOAA report: 10,000 Containers List Annually

Heres a recent report where ONE ship in ONE storm lost over 500 containers.

Ship loses more than 500 containers in heavy seas - CNN.com

That makes 10,000 seem more reasonable.
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Old 22-04-2014, 14:21   #17
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Re: NOAA report: 10,000 Containers List Annually

I don't care about how many containers fall off cargo ships a year. I would be interested in knowing how many containers are floating in the ocean though.

Also, is there some places that regularly have containers come ashore? If there are so many falling off ships and floating, then they must show up somewhere don't they?
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Old 22-04-2014, 14:52   #18
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Re: NOAA report: 10,000 Containers List Annually

For my time sailing on container ships, never lost a container. Plenty of wave damaged containers but none lost. For the poster that suggested containers should be stacked like hay bails, can't be done as all dock side cranes do not have the ability to turn a container while stacking. Other reason would be staging the load for the order of the discharge ports. I'm sure most here know the containers aren't simply stacked but at each corner has a locking dog placed between each stacked container's corners. Then each stack that is locked together like a tall, solid brick are cross lashed and secured. Throughout the passage they are under constant inspection by a crew member while checking the reefer unit's cooling status and chart recorders.
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Old 22-04-2014, 15:59   #19
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Re: NOAA report: 10,000 Containers List Annually

I feel for the guys who were aboard the ships that broke in two.

Mitsui O.S.K. Containers Sink Into Sea as Ship Splits - Bloomberg

Spanish cargo ship breaks in half on French coast - no comment - YouTube

http://www.maritime-executive.com/ar...ed-2013-06-17/

Stranded container ship Rena breaks in half near New Zealand’s coast » Greenfudge.org


New Zealand Oil Spill: Half Of Grounded Ship Sinks

Christmas Island Spill: Phosphate Ship Breaks In Half, Threatens Species (VIDEO)


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Old 23-04-2014, 05:39   #20
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Re: NOAA report: 10,000 Containers List Annually

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I don't care about how many containers fall off cargo ships a year. I would be interested in knowing how many containers are floating in the ocean though...
I'd rather know how many passage-making sailboats actually hit containers each year.
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Old 23-04-2014, 06:14   #21
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I'd rather know how many passage-making sailboats actually hit containers each year.
Based on forum talk I would estimate that each container on average gets hit by and sinks 3 boats a year.
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Old 23-04-2014, 06:43   #22
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Re: NOAA report: 10,000 Containers List Annually

I think the stats are that for every 100 containers lost, 1.3 posts are made in outrage and condemnation on CF.
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Re: NOAA report: 10,000 Containers List Annually

I'm sure we can solve this insidious lost container problem and make the high seas once again safe for cruisers if only this thread can go on for a least 500 posts without being shut down.
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I'm sure we can solve this insidious lost container problem and make the high seas once again safe for cruisers if only this thread can go on for a least 500 posts without being shut down.
impressive goal, but probably shooting too high
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Re: NOAA report: 10,000 Containers List Annually

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Heres a recent report where ONE ship in ONE storm lost over 500 containers.

Ship loses more than 500 containers in heavy seas - CNN.com

That makes 10,000 seem more reasonable.
Here is the report explaining how it happened: http://www.dmaib.com/Ulykkesrapporte...t%20report.pdf

The sea state was much worse than anticipated by the master, taking into account the available information and his experience. The ship rolled to 41.

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Thanks. The Master and Chief earned their money that trip.
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Re: NOAA report: 10,000 Containers List Annually

With all the miles sailed by CF members worldwide, has anyone on this site ever seen or hit a container? I have not.
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Re: NOAA report: 10,000 Containers List Annually

I hope they sink! It seems there was a big brouhaha in the 90's about them just floating.. maybe changes were made to make them sink..?
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Re: NOAA report: 10,000 Containers List Annually

Either they sink or not depending on the displacement of the contents. Some special refrigerated containers can be water tight but the vast majority are not.
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Heres a recent report where ONE ship in ONE storm lost over 500 containers.

Ship loses more than 500 containers in heavy seas - CNN.com

That makes 10,000 seem more reasonable.
If 85% were empty then they sank most likely. The story says as much.

This is the single biggest loss ever. How one can extrapolate from 500 to 10,000 is not obvious.
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