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Old 18-12-2015, 06:07   #121
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Good call! and Yup been there done that on other projects, and even sadder more than once.
The unkindest cut of all.

Last week I finally got around to refastening the gooseneck to the mast as a part of an "improvement" to the designer's idea. Halfway thru the project, I had an even better idea that was only half the work of the original idea! By now, I had parts scattered ... you know the drill. So to put all back (just like it was) I had to source 1/4 rivets, and buy a bigger hand riveter from my friend the Amazon. There were only two ways for it to mount ...
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... you forgot to install the gasket.

Good call! and Yup been there done that on other projects, and even sadder more then once.
Even sadder, I've done it more than once with the same gasket on the same project. In my defense it was a couple of days between the reassemblies and I didn't do it a third time.
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Old 18-12-2015, 07:45   #123
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Certainly one of the most annoying things on the planet.

Also, have you noticed that the 2" fine thread bolt you have to remove 1/16 of a turn at a time, is supporting a small, unstressed bracket holding a lightweight, non critical part that could be held on easily by a bolt 1/2" long.
95% of the time!!!

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only after putting the brand new cylinder head back on to the engine, torquing down all 18 bolts in 20 ft/lb increments over 3 revolutions do you then see that one of the rocker arm mounting studs is bent and it all has to come back off again.
I would have had several attempts to straighten/replace said stud before head re-removal...

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... you forgot to install the gasket.
Or there's a head gasket tab that's sticking out of the joint you just finished torquing that clearly has the word "DOWN" visible...

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When installing something to the boat that requires mounting with bolts or screws, you always find the exact bolts or screws required in the on-board nut and bolt kit. Murphy tells us that we'll fall one or two less than needed for the job, however.

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I occasionally like the red headed stepchild fastener in a group to remind me that life ain't perfect...

I also like to steal matching fasteners from non conspicuous locations so I can deceive myself into thinking that sometimes life is perfect...


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Ya know, guys, I think this thread ought to be made a sticky, but under a new name: "What They Didn't Tell You at the Boat Show." Whaddaya think?
YES ANN!!! Love it!
Long, but I like your title hyphenated right after?

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The unkindest cut of all.

Last week I finally got around to refastening the gooseneck to the mast as a part of an "improvement" to the designer's idea. Halfway thru the project, I had an even better idea that was only half the work of the original idea! By now, I had parts scattered ... you know the drill. So to put all back (just like it was) I had to source 1/4 rivets, and buy a bigger hand riveter from my friend the Amazon. There were only two ways for it to mount ...
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!! !

Silly Crabby... You didn't position yourself correctly during the install....
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A real crab could have done a better job.
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Ya know, guys, I think this thread ought to be made a sticky, but under a new name: "What They Didn't Tell You at the Boat Show." Whaddaya think?
I like it, especially considering it's one of those rare, if not unprecedented CF threads that is full of aggravation but no controversy!
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Re: Murphy's Marine Laws

You have to repair part A, and to do so have to remove part B, C, D, E, and F to get to it.

You figure out a better way to do it, so next time it will be easier to get to, without removing part B-F, and is a much simpler design. You get it all reassembled and then realize you missed something and have to take A-F back apart and put it back the way it was.
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The favourability of the wind on a passage is directly proportional to the unfavourability of the current. And vice versa.

Winds occur in only two speeds, not enough and too much.
Stuart's corollary - if time is of the essence, both wind and current will be against you. And the strongest winds and strongest currents coincide.

This describes my last 7 days perfectly - I just got in from doing a 7+ day, 750nm delivery from Madang to Port Moresby. W really wanted to be home for Christmas, so motorsailed on engine and main always all the way. How it is possible to go around most of the the north and south coasts of PNG and have both wind and current against you for well over 90% of that route? (contrary to Pilot Guide expectations for December)

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Old 22-12-2015, 02:16   #128
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Re: Murphy's Marine Laws

I dunno how I have missed this thread for so long... it contains the essence of life float!

Lots of good stuff, and we haven't even begun to consider the effects of Murphy on actual sailing. He turns out to be an expert...

Like, the best way to encourage a wind shift is to laboriously set your big running kite...

The best way to get the excessive wind to abate is to set the storm jib and trysail... which you have never done before, and didn't know that the slides on the trysail didn't fit the mast track quite right and have jammed with the sail fully hoisted...

On Insatiable we call the wind "Lucy", after Lucy Van Pelt, of "Peanuts" fame. You know, that girl who entices Charlie to kick the football and jerks it up at the last moment, causing him to fall flat on his back... over and over. She causes unexpected wind shifts and velocity alterations, usually just after a big effort sail change... a real bitch!

And back to the glasses sliding down the sweaty nose idea... ever have that happen when your hands were covered with 5200 ??

Or notice that disassembling the head for repairs will bring on stomach flu in the crew?

Gawd, I think that Mr Murphy was a yottie...

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A real crab could have done a better job.
Real crabs aren't as much fun to have around!

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I dunno how I have missed this thread for so long... it contains the essence of life float!

Lots of good stuff, and we haven't even begun to consider the effects of Murphy on actual sailing. He turns out to be an expert...

Like, the best way to encourage a wind shift is to laboriously set your big running kite...

The best way to get the excessive wind to abate is to set the storm jib and trysail... which you have never done before, and didn't know that the slides on the trysail didn't fit the mast track quite right and have jammed with the sail fully hoisted...

On Insatiable we call the wind "Lucy", after Lucy Van Pelt, of "Peanuts" fame. You know, that girl who entices Charlie to kick the football and jerks it up at the last moment, causing him to fall flat on his back... over and over. She causes unexpected wind shifts and velocity alterations, usually just after a big effort sail change... a real bitch!

And back to the glasses sliding down the sweaty nose idea... ever have that happen when your hands were covered with 5200 ??

Or notice that disassembling the head for repairs will bring on stomach flu in the crew?

Gawd, I think that Mr Murphy was a yottie...

Jim
I love this Lucy business Jim!
A-b-s-olutely perfect...
I intend to give you guys credit when I utilize the same!

And yes... That lovely trysail that is now jammed up in a ghosting breeze... Perfect analogy...
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when trying to listen to the weather on the vhf you can get it for anyplace but the one you are in or going to.

Or they finally get to your area of interest and the radio breaks up at the exact spot you needed to hear, necessitating 10 more minutes of intense listening.
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Wanna make it stop raining? Put your wet weather gear on. Wanna make it rain? Take it off.
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Re: Murphy's Marine Laws

going up the mast you will invariably have forgotten 1 or more tools.

Getting smarter with age you will have a line tied to your waist with a small basket on the end so when you find out what you have forgotten you mate can put that tool or spare part in the basket and you can simply haul it up

unfotunately the basket will always catch on a spreader, tip and the prodigal tool or spare part will fall back down unto the deck

corollary 1 - if the tool/part remains on deck - it will have broken in the fall

corollary 2 - if it doesn't break in the fall - it will fall overboard

corollary 3 - it will be the only one of these tools/parts you have on the boat.

corollary 4 - cursing aloud in every language you can think of will not help

corollary 5 - your mate will tell you to mind your tongue

corollary 6 - you will again wonder why you ever ´decided to own a boatand go cruising
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going up the mast you will invariably have forgotten 1 or more tools.

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You forgot the "mad toe stub dash" by the mate trying to avoid said falling part... And the associated heated discussion of your butter fingers post drop...
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Such a pleasure to find that all of you are acquainted wiht Murphy's Law


But how many of you have ever heard of his 2nd Law?


Murphy's Second Law:

No matter how bad things are - they're gonna get worse
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Capt. Edward A. Murphy, Jr.
Murphy's Original Law
"If there’s any way they* can do it wrong, they* will."
* Murphy’s assistants
Improbable Research

"Avoid any action with an unacceptable outcome."
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