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Old 03-04-2014, 09:48   #136
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Re: Hiding Guns on Board

Odds your gun aboard will save your life, extremely low. Odds it'll save your life hidden in a hard to find and access secret compartment, almost nil.

Odds your gun will get you thrown in prison or killed in a country you shouldn't bring it to, low to medium.

My advice, don't go to places you feel like you'd need a gun. You're far more likely to end up the victim than the victor.
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I would like to hear more stories from people who actually hide guns abroad their boats, especially from whose where the customers people etc. found them.
You are highly unlikely to hear from people who got caught with contraband guns onboard, as they are most probably being held somewhere that they aren't allowed internet access!

The odds of getting caught with guns onboard are probably relatively small, but trying to hide guns from customs is one of those things that usually gets you a nice, long vacation in the local gray-bar hotel, if you do get caught.
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I bet the best place to hide your gun on the boat is to hide it with your drugs. You know ................................ up your rear.
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Something to add.💓

Alarge number of super yachts carry arsenals all around the Caribbean. How do the rich do this?
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The odds

There is a lot of talk of odds on this thread. What is meant by it? All of this low odds or very low odds. High odds. What do they mean? Does a person have a 1:700,000 chance of being caught with guns on board in a year? That is the chance a person has of being struck by lightning. Should I be more worried about being caught with a gun or struck by lightning in a year. What about a 1:3000 chance that a gun will save my life sometime? Doesn't seem so far fetched a number. That is also the same chance I have of getting hit by lightning in my lifetime. Anyone can say odds are high or low or good or bad, but they mean nothing without the actual numbers. When a person uses the term "The Odds" I just assume they are talking about the movie, because it has no relevance to the thread. I have no intention of every carrying a gun on board or hiding one on a boat. Anyways, if someone knows why terms like the 'The Odds" are used to support arguments without facts, I would love to find out why. Thanks again. Thomas
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Alarge number of super yachts carry arsenals all around the Caribbean. How do the rich do this?
This seems to be the general "rumor" that I've also heard. If true I would be curious how they get around it. If not true clarification as to what is actual fact would be interesting.
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Alarge number of super yachts carry arsenals all around the Caribbean. How do the rich do this?

The gun laws we are familiar with generally apply to private citizens. Many countries have exceptions for professional security teams, and setting up a business isn't all that hard, even if its sole client is your own yacht. Heck, many super yachts are run as business, rather than private, property.
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Alarge number of super yachts carry arsenals all around the Caribbean. How do the rich do this?
same way the poor honest people do!

one time i was in the customs in carriacou declaring my rifle and pistol,next to me was a superyacht skipper doing the same,i glanced at his declaration form,and on it they had 7 glocks,5 ar15's, 5 pump action shot guns,and about 6000 rounds of ammunition!

most of the caribean islands apart from trinidad let you keep them onboard once you have declared them.
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This seems to be the general "rumor" that I've also heard. If true I would be curious how they get around it. If not true clarification as to what is actual fact would be interesting.
I'm sure you don't see many mega yachts in Guilford or Weirs Beach, so i understand your statement...

I'm not discussing rumor or stories. I have been aboard several and seen the arsenals of a few in the Caribbean.

They carry serious weapons, keep them on board while docked and travel all over the world.

Maybe corporate laws ade the secret?
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This seems to be the general "rumor" that I've also heard. If true I would be curious how they get around it. If not true clarification as to what is actual fact would be interesting.
They "get around it" by checking resources like Noonsite.com — Noonsite, then contacting customs before entry to file any required paperwork, and then declaring them on their entry forms when they check in with customs. And you don't have to be rich to follow the laws of the countries you choose to enter.

If you are rich you can also leave the arsenal and security force on the yacht in international waters and cruise on into shore in your 40 ft tender.

If you are really rich you leave your security escort boat in international waters and take the yacht in closer before going to shore in your 30 foot tender.

And then there are the mega-rich who bounce between their yacht, private island, friends yachts and any other spot they choose within range of their helicopter.

We don't fall into any of those three so we hide stuff from thieves, declare our stuff to authorities and either dispose of prohibited items before entry or choose a different destination.


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same way the poor honest people do!

one time i was in the customs in carriacou declaring my rifle and pistol,next to me was a superyacht skipper doing the same,i glanced at his declaration form,and on it they had 7 glocks,5 ar15's, 5 pump action shot guns,and about 6000 rounds of ammunition!

most of the caribean islands apart from trinidad let you keep them onboard once you have declared them.


Ah ha! Thanks.

Was always curious why I read that you would be jailed for life doing this as a cruiser, yet most mega yachts are armed to the teeth.
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I'm sure you don't see many mega yachts in Guilford or Weirs Beach, so i understand your statement...

I'm not discussing rumor or stories. I have been aboard several and seen the arsenals of a few in the Caribbean.

They carry serious weapons, keep them on board while docked and travel all over the world.

Maybe corporate laws ade the secret?
That's funny we actually keep our boat in Gilford. Carrying guns on board their is easy. No need to hide them in New Hampshire. It's all contained with in one state and is under the Marine Patrol not the Coast Guard.
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Re: Hiding Guns on Board

As a delivery skipper (retired), I had any number of owners who engaged me to bring their boats to or from Mexico or Central America try and BS me they had no firearms or drugs on board and more than once I turned down a trip just because I had a 'bad vibe' from the owner about his answers to my questions.
One guy in particular denied vehemently that he had any firearms aboard his vessel and needed to get it from south of Puerto Vallarta back to San Diego to put it on the market claiming health problems forced the sale.
I agreed and on clearing into the US at the C&I dock in San Diego, called the owner to let him know we had cleared and ask where he wanted the boat berthed. He told me and had the guts to ask me to deliver his 9mm that he had denied having aboard when I picked up the vessel! Given that I'd probably still be in jail now, 10 years later, I was a little pissed!
Because his check had cleared the bank, I pitched the gun overboard and told him he could find his pistol at the bottom of SD Bay. Another day in the life of a delivery skipper... Phil
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As a delivery skipper (retired), I had any number of owners who engaged me to bring their boats to or from Mexico or Central America try and BS me they had no firearms or drugs on board and more than once I turned down a trip just because I had a 'bad vibe' from the owner about his answers to my questions.
One guy in particular denied vehemently that he had any firearms aboard his vessel and needed to get it from south of Puerto Vallarta back to San Diego to put it on the market claiming health problems forced the sale.
I agreed and on clearing into the US at the C&I dock in San Diego, called the owner to let him know we had cleared and ask where he wanted the boat berthed. He told me and had the guts to ask me to deliver his 9mm that he had denied having aboard when I picked up the vessel! Given that I'd probably still be in jail now, 10 years later, I was a little pissed!
Because his check had cleared the bank, I pitched the gun overboard and told him he could find his pistol at the bottom of SD Bay. Another day in the life of a delivery skipper... Phil

mexico is one of the few countries where all fire arms are prohibited for visiting yachts.....i guess they remember the Alamo
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Re: Hiding Guns on Board

I have a CCW.
I carry only in the States, and of late the laws are getting iffy.

Im English and dont have ANY weapons in the UK or Europe.

Thing about having a gun on a boat is that without lots of money and clout, you WILL GO TO JAIL for a long time in a foreign land and with some nice men who are very interested in your form and physique.

The other thing about having a gun is that people usually shoot back, and even if you beat them off you go to jail.

Glassfibre doesnt look pretty with holes in it....

you may never get to save your life with a gun if the country's police find it first........

Its not right, buts its the way it is.
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