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| Registered User ![]() Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Ottawa ON Canada
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For what it's worth, the vast majority of non-com's in the Canadian Navy are professionals who would never consider doing what you did. | |
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| Registered User ![]() Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Fort Worth
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That is a good way to get court marshalled, I would buck a Chief, or a First Class Petty Oficer, but once you go comissioned, I do what I am told. I had no idea what all would happen, I followed orders. Had I been on a sub, where enlisted men get the respect they deserve, perhaps. Where I was, with the conditions on that ship and pretty well the majority of the surface Navy then (and most likely today), I would do exactly the same thing. | |
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| Registered User ![]() Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Ottawa ON Canada
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| Is that so? Didn't you say "This unrep was one of many I had done, far more than I could or can remember."? Or what about: "I looked at the crew, and said, "You get that guys". I saw smiles and a lot of nods."? You slipped a steel cable under tension, carrying a couple thousand pounds of hose and fuel - and you claim you didn't know what would happen. You're damn lucky you didn't kill someone. Quote:
Perhaps you've heard of My Lai?, or Nazi war crimes? How many soldiers have said exactly what you have to justify their unlawful acts? The point is you're not required to follow an unlawful order. You were in charge of the evolution - not the supernumerary safety O. The BS you're spinning is a bald-faced cop-out and you know it. And I know how the guys in the skimmers are treated, and I agree it ain't right, but it isn't an excuse either. Cosmosmariner - ditto. | |
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| Registered User ![]() Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Western North Carolina USA
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, start another thread in the Off topic area and call it The Rant. Disobeying a lawful order from a senior (officer or not) is punishable by, as a minimum, Non-Judicial Punishment aka a Captains Mast or by a Court Martial. Senior officers say "That's how officers learn". Start that thread somewhere else and I'll tell you how I was railroaded into a Captains Mast by officers and Non-Coms (confirmed by the Admin Chief when we both mustered out) who didn't like me and how I appealed to the Rear Admiral (Rembrant C. Robinson) and won. There are as many Machiavellians (and @_s holes in the services (of all countries) as there are in big business.
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| Registered User ![]() Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Western North Carolina USA
Boat: 1987 Watkins 25 Wu-Hsin
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As a Radioman (RM) in the late '60s early '70s we used 1800 ft open reels of paper tape about an inch wide punched with 5 holes across the tape. Various combinations of holes equated to letters, numbers and characters. The messages we handled were punched out on these tapes as temp storage then burned after retransmission. The punch-outs or 'chad' got messy so they invented 'chadless tape' that only punched a semi-circle. As the tape reels ran out they were dyed sometimes red sometimes green sometimes yellow as a warning. Red Green And yellow were also coincidently used as security classifications Red top secret, yellow secret, green confidental. We used to put two colored pieces together then run them through a teletype machine and the chadless effect would hinge them together. We would then send newbies after 'Secret/Confidential tape'.
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| Moderator ![]() Moderator Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: San Francisco Bay
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__________________ David Where land ends life begins. Last edited by David M; 11-07-2009 at 21:12. | |
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| Registered User ![]() Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Western North Carolina USA
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One duty station was NAVCOMSTA GUAM. Six of us were taking a commercial flight from Guam to CA with one stopover but not a plane change in Honolulu. We were flying 'international' so drinks were $.50 USD and we started drinking Mai Tais as soon as the wheels were up. By the time we got to Hono we were pretty loose. The layover was an hour and they weren't serving while on the ground so we left the plane and headed for the piano bar in the terminal. We of course ordered Mai Tais. Eventually someone asked us if we had a plane to catch and we hustled back to the gate. There was no jetway and the plane was sitting about 50 yds from the gate. The boarding stairs were still positioned at the door of the plane. The gate attendent said we were 30 minutes late and the plane couldn't take off without us. The July sun was really bright as we ran to the plane and the head stew was doing a Tonto with her left hand and waving us on to hurry up with her right. She glared at us and said in a very stern and even tone, 'Get...on...board!' We took our seats and the plane took off. The head stew came around and told us that they had a minor fueling hitch so we only held the plane up about 10 minutes. We breathed a little easier and ordered more Mai Tais. |
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| Registered User ![]() Join Date: May 2006 Location: Kea'au, Big Island, Hawaii
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Aloha Cosmos, You probably noticed a : ) Welcome aboard and thanks very much for serving! Chiefs, Officers and senior Petty Officers sometimes had incredible pressures put on them by seniors and especially while either in wartime or qualification times. I hope you can understand that sometimes it is the a--ho-- that comes out under pressure in some cases. In my point of view, and I was in 30 years with 12 of that being Chief or senior there was never an occasion for me to be an a--ho-- except when there was a junior who would absolutely not act when directed to do so. That really got me going. I truly hope that in my time in that I helped more careers than hindered. Regards, Again, thanks for your service. JohnL |
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| Registered User ![]() Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Western North Carolina USA
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In my 'coffee incident' when word got around some of the chiefs came to me individually and said that if there was a medal for it that I should get it. They thought he was a turd too! | |
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| Registered User ![]() Join Date: May 2006 Location: Kea'au, Big Island, Hawaii
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Funny? Getting aboard Tiger Airlines aircraft with half the passengers carrying M-16s and the other half holstered .45s at their sides headed for Anchorage, Alaska having liftoff after spending 13 months in Vietnam. The funny part? Flight crew announcing free drinks. The other funny part, landing in Anchorage in shortsleeves after spending a year in the tropics. Good times. Regards, JohnL |
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| Registered User ![]() Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Western North Carolina USA
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We stood quarters every morning and while waiting we noticed that one of the favorite pastime of these armed Marines was catching Geckos and smacking them in the jaw until they opened their mouths and angrily hissed. At this point they would put the tail of another Gecko into the mouth of the angry one and he would clamp down hard and not let go. This action was repeated until someone won by having the most Geckos by the time quarters was called. The competition ended with a swinging of the Gecko daisy chain and seeing whose chain could go the farthest when let go. These guys then picked up their weapons and fell in. A laugh riot let me tell you?! | |
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__________________ David Where land ends life begins. | |
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| Registered User ![]() Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Cobbs Creek, VA
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I really glad that you two have shaken hands and remembered that this blog is to be about items and things that are funny. It's understandable that there times in our youth that we've all done things that in hind site we wouldn't even think about doing today, that's called matruity. I really enjoy reading this blogs, brings back a lot of fond memories, lets keep up the humorious work guys. Mike OSCS |
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| Me too Keep 'em coming guys ![]() David (Cub Scout -1975 for 3 longggg years - no badges awarded )(Sea Scout - 1978 for 1 evening )
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