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Old 29-06-2014, 22:29   #16
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Re: For The Pilots On Here, A Damn Good Landing.

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And it's a new world record. Post #4 already second guesses a perfect landing.
As poster of #4 I ask you to notice the
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Seeing as how they "flew around for hours" I wonder why the Captain didn't send the FO though the hell hole into the wheel well to fix it!
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. We are STOL and landed in like 300 feet from the numbers..
I've been oogling Zenith CH 701 and 801 kits for a long, long time. If I built it the A&P hassles of owning it would largely go away down here. We might drive from Miami to CO on an upcoming trip to the US and I've noted how close to the Zenith factory that takes us..
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I've been oogling Zenith CH 701 and 801 kits for a long, long time. If I built it the A&P hassles of owning it would largely go away down here. We might drive from Miami to CO on an upcoming trip to the US and I've noted how close to the Zenith factory that takes us..
Never had the urge to build a plane but it has gotten a lot easier. Quick start kits are almost like building model airplanes.

There was a British show where the guy built a race car, helicopter and I think airplane. I moved mid season on the heli build and lost track of it...
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Re: For The Pilots On Here, A Damn Good Landing.

Here is episode 1. Watch all the follow ons and you have seen the series.



He has built several things, and restored a few others. All available on youtube if you are interested.

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Here is episode 1. Watch all the follow ons and you have seen the series.



He has built several things, and restored a few others. All available on youtube if you are interested.

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Thank "Gore" for the internet - and thank Coops for the link - Another distraction from the boat rebuild - LOL...
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Re: For The Pilots On Here, A Damn Good Landing.

Another landing clip, this one with difference.

Jet pilot executes perfect landing on stool with no nose gear. [VIDEO]

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From a layman's view it looks a good effort.

This pilot deserves a raise. [VIDEO]

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Another view of the landing with a look at the undercarriage at the end....

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From a layman's view it looks a good effort.

This pilot deserves a raise. [VIDEO]

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Not necessarily. The driver apparently did not notice that the ground crew did not re-connect the nose wheel steering when they pushed back. Taxied out and took off using differential power and still did not notice that they still had no nose wheel steering.
They made a good landing in calm conditions. Hooray. The quality of the nose gear is what is amazing.
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Not necessarily. The driver apparently did not notice that the ground crew did not re-connect the nose wheel steering when they pushed back. Taxied out and took off using differential power and still did not notice that they still had no nose wheel steering.
They made a good landing in calm conditions. Hooray. The quality of the nose gear is what is amazing.
I just groked that this was not a recent event - LOL...

Here is the NTSB report. I think you will find that it wasn't a failure to connect something. The NLG actually failed.

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Re: For The Pilots On Here, A Damn Good Landing.

Once we were taking off on a charter flight, in Guyana, the plane, I believe was a Britten Norman Islander. The starboard landing gear under the wing dropped a pin and the wheels went 90 degrees to the direction of travel. It spun the plane off of the runway onto the grass. the crew located a pin shoved it back into place and off we went. Thank God it happened before we got off the ground, on landing it could have been very ugly.
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I just groked that this was not a recent event - LOL...

Here is the NTSB report. I think you will find that it wasn't a failure to connect something. The NLG actually failed.

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Where in that report does it say that they did reconnect the scissors or that they were connected? What is says is they got a nose gear warning light. Of course you would get a warning light. It is really a pretty simple system that relies on a ramp rat making min wage to reconnect the steering on an aircraft hauling hundreds.
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Where in that report does it say that they did reconnect the scissors or that they were connected? What is says is they got a nose gear warning light. Of course you would get a warning light. It is really a pretty simple system that relies on a ramp rat making min wage to reconnect the steering on an aircraft hauling hundreds.
One might suspect you are trolling - One is positive you are not reading.

And ramp rats don't make minimum wage.

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"A Safety Board metallurgist and a systems engineer supervised the examination of the NLG assembly at Messier Services, Sterling, Virginia. The examination of the NLG assembly revealed that two of the four anti-rotation lugs on the NLG upper support assembly had fractured and separated from the upper support assembly. The other two lugs contained cracks. A summary of the metallurgist's findings follows."
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Where in that report does it say that they did reconnect the scissors or that they were connected? What is says is they got a nose gear warning light. Of course you would get a warning light. It is really a pretty simple system that relies on a ramp rat making min wage to reconnect the steering on an aircraft hauling hundreds.
If you knew anything about the Airbus nose wheel steering system, you would know it's NOT a simple system. The JetBlue failure resulted in the FAA finally publishing an AD note. There were other failures before this, and EASA had already addressed it in their own AD. The BSCU computer software resulted in instances that allowed the NWS system to over torque the top lugs on the inner cylinder which resulted in cracks, which eventually allowed the lugs to fail, and the inner cylinder to rotate beyond the steering stops. Hyd system pressure prevented the gear from centering since the logic in the computer could no longer ascertain the inner cylinder position. The AD required the lugs be inspected at certain intervals with a bore scope, upgrade of the BSCU standard, and eventual replacement of any part operated with the affected BSCU software. The little "warning light" isn't a warning light at all, but an ECAM message to the effect of "NWS BSCU FAULT".

There's no "pin" at the torque links to disconnect the nose gear steering.
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