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Old 09-01-2019, 05:38   #31
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it is just because I dicover the cruiser forum recently!and paln to come back liveboard in the caribbean but get concerned by the decay of venezuela and the useless watch of the ghost trinidadian coastguard!!!
Perhaps it's easier just to avoid these places. There are plenty of other places to cruise where you don't have to worry about safety.
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Re: flamme thrower aboard??

alas not possible to avoid, hte caribbean is top and to avoid/escape hurricanne a seasonal south cruise is mandatory from august to november...
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Re: flamme thrower aboard??

Yes, most Caribbean nations have no problems with flame throwers aboard. Please do a search before posting, we've had a lot of threads about this.
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Amazing that on a fairly calm day, on a large boat, with a precision gun, during the day, it still "takes a bit" to hit the targets.



Next time a Rambo says they need a gun this is good evidence to suggest that no, you're not going to hit them with your AR if they are coming at you!


That appears to be a CWIS or similar, itís not a chain gun, it actually an 1800ís design, a gatling, electrically driven, and likely those boats are at a greater range than you may suppose. Much higher rate of fire than a chain gun, and can fire many more rounds than a chain gun before overheating as it has multiple barrels, often 6.
Also itís very likely that a CWIS if that is what this is, is an area weapon system. Meaning that if it puts every round in precisely the same place, it doesnít meet requirements, they are looking for more of a shotgun effect out of an area weapon.

Iím not a Navy guy, but think a CWIS is a 20mm cannon, and this gun appears to be a 50 cal.

A ďChain gunĒ is a single barrel gun often a cannon that itís working mechanism is actually driven by a chain, making it smaller and lighter, itís surprisingly a Hughes Aircraft design.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/M230_chain_gun
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maybe, but a chain gun sounds like a lot of fun


They can be
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gasoline is kept below deck inside a 80l, 8 bars pressurized water tank, a long hydraulic type hose(size depend of your boat size)handle type karcher with trigger and piezo type gaz burner and check (in the hight sea,not anchorage..)regulary . video will be posted soon...
please be sure your video clearly shows your boat, I want to be able to easily recognize it
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it is just because I dicover the cruiser forum recently!and paln to come back liveboard in the caribbean but get concerned by the decay of venezuela and the useless watch of the ghost trinidadian coastguard!!!
Easy, smart solution, don't go to Venezuela.

Hard, dumb solution, buy guns, flamme [sic] throwers and other worthless items for self defense.

Why dumb? Because the range of the flame thrower is very limited. So the pirates just park about 100' away and kill everyone on the boat with their AK47s. Then they come aboard to rape and rob you (assuming they're necrophiliacs )
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Guns etc. on boats aren't really practical or effective. Their main function is to make the boat owners feel they are protected. I don't care if people want to have guns on their boats, but a flame thrower? That's just serious paranoid thinking.

Going to be a big issue the first time someone touches some fishing boat that was just trying to trade/sell some fish with you.
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BTW - why would people choose to sail into areas that they are scared of if they could avoid it?
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Hey, I think it's a grand idea!



I think that it's a grander idea to avoid Trinidad if you're concerned about crime on the way down. Why not just go to Panama or Colombia for the hurricane season? Yes, it's a beat to get back to the E. Caribbean, but Cartagena or the San Blas are a much nicer place to spend several months than Trinidad. Just my view.
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gasoline is kept below deck inside a 80l, 8 bars pressurized water tank, a long hydraulic type hose(size depend of your boat size)handle type karcher with trigger and piezo type gaz burner and check (in the hight sea,not anchorage..)regulary . video will be posted soon...
Oh goodie...80L of gasoline below decks!
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Re: flamme thrower aboard??

I know... use the boom or a whisker pole as an innocent looking barrel/nozzle. How about a drone to drop DIY thermite/napalm bombs on the pirate skiff? Use the kind that is controlled from an Android phone, and uploads live video to the cloud in real time. The 21st century answer to Greek Fire and the catapult. Or set up the dinghy for remote control and fill it with Acme's top of the line bombs and guide it to a collision with the pirate vessel. Wile E. Coyote would approve, I am sure. Or have it tow a bunch of floating polypro rope around the pirates, to foul their props, and sink the disabled vessels with a DIY battering ram mounted on the bow. Sharks with laser beams is merely a childish prank compared to these devastating anti piracy devices and tactics.
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Re: flamme thrower aboard??

Look mate, if you're going to protect your spouse, you really need to stop messing around with kid's toys. Great one of these....

https://youtu.be/t8IvER-GGEY

They're super cheap from Army surplus ...
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Re: flamme thrower aboard??

Ex wives as crew might be a better solution.
The cackling and screaming would scare away any potential intruders !
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Oh goodie...80L of gasoline below decks!
properly storage as this miss
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